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And there we shall agree to disagree.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
- Benjamin Disraeli
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WTF are you on?
HOw is a robot actually like slavery? Do you actually think machines have rights, have feelings?
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Munchies_Matt wrote: WTF are you on?
I'm gonna have to go with work, which might have distracted me enough to miss the "no" part of "no more" while skimming your post.
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics."
- Benjamin Disraeli
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And then comes child robot labor laws, then unions, then anarchy?
Someone's therapist knows all about you!
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This is where it gets interesting. Do we decide that machines have feelings? If they provoke an empathetic reaction in us, then we might well do, regardless of how ridiculous it is.
But the CAGW is ridiculous, yet that doesnt stop moronic left wing cretins believing in it. 
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Munchies_Matt wrote: Do we decide that machines have feelings?
I think it depends a lot on their function. Industrial robots: probably not, domestic robots: maybe? Or maybe it's not their function as much as the way we percieve them?
Someone's therapist knows all about you!
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Yes, and one of the first use of robots, as we see today, is in the sex industry, where relationships are by mature much closer with man, and such feelings more likely to arise.
Given mans tendency to anthropomorphise this is probably a cert to happen.
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Munchies_Matt wrote: Yes, and one of the first use of robots, as we see today, is in the sex industry, where relationships are by mature much closer with man, and such feelings more likely to arise.
First military then you're probably right about the sex aspect. God help us!
Someone's therapist knows all about you!
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"Damn, they sent me the military one!"
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You on Santa's hit list eh?
Someone's therapist knows all about you!
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Damn militant sex robots
Someone's therapist knows all about you!
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Mike Hankey wrote: Damn militant sex robots
Singing "Lay down your arms and surrender to mine"? 
(No. 1 in the UK charts in 1956.)
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Munchies_Matt wrote: Not a bad lifestyle. When do we start! 
You will do no such thing! The tinmen will have captains who defend their rights[^].
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
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Munchies_Matt wrote: Not a bad lifestyle. When do we start!
We?? I don't know. I think I'll be living a life of leisure. So you go on build the robots and start sending checks via the government.
Cheerio.
T.
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Those who do work will get paid of course, in addition to the basic maintenance cash every one gets.
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Munchies_Matt wrote: I can envision a future where robots do almost all the manual work, and crucially, they are payed a wage and taxed at 100% on it. ie, the company employing them pays, at a reduced rate, the commensurate wage a person would have received, direct to the government as tax.
Then you will be paying tax every time you use a computer to do any manual work - like accounting.
You will be paying chauffeur fees for self-driving cars.
You will not receive any reduction in price for efficiencies derived from automation (cheaper food, cheaper production of vehicles, etc).
In effect, you will have to get a job, because we all know the government won't pass that tax back to you - unless you plan on living on welfare.
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Pualee wrote: Then you will be paying tax every time you use a computer to do any manual work - like accounting.
Is a computer a robot?
Pualee wrote: You will be paying chauffeur fees for self-driving cars.
Probably. Today you pay a driver, and he pays tax.
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Explain to me how come MicroSoft isn't already required to do this for every license of Word which put thousands of secretaries out of work?
All a robot does is enhance productivity. Do we tax everything that enhances productivity?
I'm pretty sure I would not like to live in a world in which I would never be offended.
I am absolutely certain I don't want to live in a world in which you would never be offended.
Freedom doesn't mean the absence of things you don't like.
Dave
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We havent got to that future yet.
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Only humans would think robots are a great idea in regards to helping us and furthering our species.
IMHO, we deserve every single bad thing that will come of this, a thousand times over. I also believe, that very few good things will ever come of this.
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A robot is just a machine. It might look clever, but underneath it is just a machine, and it is the engineers who built it that are the geniuses, just ad Babbage was, and the inventor of the spinning jenny.
So, since mechanisation has helped us immensely, giving us an incredible lifestyle today, why not continue the trend?
And, what ill has befallen us because of past mechanisation that makes you think future mechanisation will?
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Many, many uneducated and/or less skilled people are losing and will continue to lose their jobs to robots and automated mechanization - that is a fact. This will put more of a strain on the welfare system in my country, and perhaps, the world's welfare system (if they have one).
Now you introduce AI, and that adds an infinite set of variables to the mix. As AI become more powerful, then what would happen if AI went awry? Speculation on my part, yes, but still a valid scenario outcome.
There are and will continue to be benefits to this robot stuff, but I think the negative will outweigh the good. My opinion.
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One interesting effect will be the re-onshoring of labour in the developed first world countries, ie those who are going to robotise first.
Anyway, yes, AI and all that, the robots attack, terminator, I Robot and so on. Lots of sci-fi there, not sure if there is much basis in reality for it.
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