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BillWoodruff wrote: Rajesh R Subramanian wrote: Is there anything that you've not read?
your mind
That's understandable, given that I struggle to read it from time to time as well. 
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Namaste, Rajesh-ji,
I sometimes wonder if a certain level of opacity in reading one's own mind is a requirement for sanity: at other times, I'm kind of sure of that 
I am more sure that believing one can read another person's mind is very dangerous, often leading to great disasters, like "relationships" 
cheers, Bill
«Where is the Life we have lost in living? Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?» T. S. Elliot
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Hope EVERYONE has a safe and fun holiday season.
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And to you and yours, sir! Happy Christmas, Holidays, Hanukkah, Badtis, or whatever!
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Indeed!! 
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I wish you all a Merry Christmas!!!
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Lord, grant me the serenity to accept that there are some things I just can’t keep up with, the determination to keep up with the things I must keep up with, and the wisdom to find a good RSS feed from someone who keeps up with what I’d like to, but just don’t have the damn bandwidth to handle right now.
© 2009, Rex Hammock
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Any other UK'ers working today ?
We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP
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Well, Herself is (and tomorrow) - but I've got to go get here soon.
And he doesn't code, so I'm guessing she doesn't count for your purposes.
And a huge number of retail workers are planning to murder all the customers busy as heck. Oh, and the bin men did their thing this morning. And Postie, he came here as well.
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Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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It is 8:30 Christmas morning here and the bin driver has just been around. I remember when there were actual bin men and we left a bottle of beer out for them the last day before Christmas.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity -
RAH
I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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Yes - but just been told we can finish an hour early!
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I'm an optoholic - my glass is always half full of vodka.
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Why this time? DOOM is 25% off - and that's tempting. But ... if I buy it, I'm gonna play it. And I have to cook Christmas dinner tomorrow; the chances of that happening while DOOM is lying unplayed on my PC are ... um ... rather low.
Elephant!
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Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Isn't there an IoT device that regulates your oven temp by how much you play DOOM? That way, you could play and cook dinner at the same time!!!
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Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny
Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802
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Most of it's pretty easy - Sous Vide on at 10:30 @ 62.5, turkey goes in @ 11:00. Pud goes in steamer at 12:30, Potatoes go in at 12:45 (Roasty), 13:00 (Hasselback), 13:14 (Dauphinoise). Purees are made, they need heating (Sous Vide again), Pigs in blankets, stuffing, sprouts - in oven @ 13:30, but there is prep to do (parboiling, slicing, poaching, ...) and DOOM will cut into that! 
I remember well how fast time flew when playing 1 and 2 ...
But ... the demo was good ... (even if the "Classic Map" secret was rather underwhelming).
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Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Damnit. I gave in, and bought it.
But I won't play it tomorrow at all. Honest ... arrgh, this will be difficult ...
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Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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The shotgun's the best!
The shotgun's the best!
The shotgun's the best!
The shotgun's the best!
The shotgun's the best!
(If that didn't work first time, read it again)
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Never played a computer game except Solitaire - Doom looks incredibly violent
We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP
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It's only a little more violent than Solitaire - you can get some really nasty paper cuts from those bouncing card when you win. And the Solitaire "Deathmatch Mode" could get extremely bloody. I remember one time when I took the ferry to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for my shoe so I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on them. Give me five bees for a quarter you’d say. Now where were we, oh ya. The important thing was that I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. They didn't have white onions because if the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones ...
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Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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OriginalGriff wrote: the Solitaire "Deathmatch Mode"
That's not the usual solitaire, it's Concentration.
Turn up a Revenant and an Arch-vile when you've only got the chainsaw, and you'm buggered.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Top 10 post of the year!
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This is when I stock up my games for the rest of the year.
Stellaris and Endless Space 2 for under $50? Yes, please!
"Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity."
- Hanlon's Razor
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Maybe don't go back for seconds ? [^]
«Where is the Life we have lost in living? Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?» T. S. Elliot
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We have overcrowded and underfunded hospitals, yet this represents some people's priorities...
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Something I take for granted is that my browser will connect to my servers which will connect to other servers in my hosting setup and that there will be a form of communication that will allow data to be requested and received.
But I have no idea how it all works at a low level. Zero.
I know that my code will make use of the .NET TCP/IP libraries and that they will handle the work of talking to the OS, which will invoke the drivers, which will use my WiFi hardware, which will talk to my ISP, which will route the communication to the server I requested. The .NET libraries will take care of handling the handshaking to establish a connection, and the sending and receiving the data itself.
But I've always wondering how this works. At low level. As in: what does the OS say to Broadcom driver to make the antennae do stuff. What commands does the driver send to the firmware? What (and how?) does the firmware do to make the antenna emit an electromagnetic signal and how does the firmware handle all the electromagnetic radiation it picks up to enable it to listen to the right signal?
Another thing that's always bugged me is the nature of the (necessarily) discontinuous communication. It's not a continuous sine wave with a continuous stream of data going to and from. The data is broken into packets and there is acknowledgement and error correction in the packets being transmitted. Which implies some kind of state management going on.
Which then raises the question of how does something like SignalR work when there are 10,000 connections (and what is a "connection"?) to a server and the data travels back and forth on a connection that's long term, not short term like a HTTP request (small furrowed brow thinking about HTTP Keep-alive)
None of this is important to a developer, and yet it kind of is important to a developer in the same way garbage collection, disk access patterns and thread scheduling. You don't need to know them, but knowing them gives you the knowledge to make informed decisions.
Does anyone know of a write-up of this stuff anywhere? Failing that: would anyone be interested in taking a stab at an article that walks through the life cycle of a bit of data travelling from code through the libraries to the OS to the drivers to the firmware to the hardware, via the ISP, across the routers, to the other and and back?
I think it would be fascinating.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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... then a miracle happens...
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I call it "magic", and allow myself to be amazed, without asking too many questions.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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