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Johnny J. wrote: Someone posted an answer to the question in question (so to speak)
That's me. And i don't think i had posted an answer. I found OP not using comments feature to get back on the answer he got. So dropped a line on the same to remind him.
Johnny J. wrote: and the OP posted a followup comment to that answer as a new answer.
OP posted an answer to the answer only. (Answer posted by CG). He was not responding to my comments. I dropped that comment seeing this step of OP (using answer button to discuss/converse with CG reply.)
Johnny J. wrote: Or is he doing the right thing, and I'm wrong?
You are right and wrong. 
Right for posting followup question using 'Add comments' and Wrong for taking my comment as an answer.
Though all this is my view, the way i look! 
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Your understanding is how we're hoping everyone else understands comments v.s. answers. I.e. an answer should only be posted if it directly answers the intended question. Anything else should be a comment.
Now, I'm looking at this from the perspective of users who have the same question and are looking for its answer. When they come across this page they don't want/need to see the discussion about how the question is unclear or ambiguous. They want to see best answer(s) - period.
I'll discuss this with the team but do you have any thoughts on how we could clarify this?
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Personally, I think the author should have edited his question to make it better and then added a comment to the answer stating that he has updated the question. The author of the answer will be notified of the comment AND the question will be better for all.
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I see my posts, my answers, my questions, my articles, my tips, and my tricks, but I still don't see a page that lists my QA comments. I'm sure that's in the road map, but thought I'd mention it just in case it isn't.
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Based on certain feedbacks from us, Chris replied this.[^]
Things should be in queue and coming...
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Yep it's one of our higher priorities.
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I don't know if this is a new change, or a weven64/FF3.6 issue (I upgraded this morning at work); but bob didn't used to disappear between refreshes of the halo on the icon.
3x12=36
2x12=24
1x12=12
0x12=18
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I'll have the icon updated today.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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See my post here.[^]
My message source looks like this:
<strike>Wrong. The engines are moving it forward but the belt is moving it backwards at the same speed. As a result its net velocity is zero meaning the wings aren't generating lift so it stays put.
The only way it could get aloft is if it's a helicopter/vtol/or it's a windy day and the AC is an ultralight with a takeoff velocity lower than the wind speed.</strike>
Edit: ooops.
but the blank line between the struck text and the edit comment is missing in the displayed version. FF3.6
3x12=36
2x12=24
1x12=12
0x12=18
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Yes, tag followed by newline seems to ignore the newline, happens to me all the time, no matter which tag. inserting a space hides the problem.
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Love the "comments" - should improve QA a lot. Well done!
But the "My vote of one" has disappeared - I had just got used to seeing that and thought it was a good idea, it makes people think before rubbishing a question, and gives information as to why a question should be considered bad. And lets you know if the person who thinks it is worthless is actually worth listening to themselves...
Part of me would like to see 1 & 5 voting be attributed on all forums - but I suspect that would take up too much screen real estate (not to mention DB space!)
You should never use standby on an elephant. It always crashes when you lift the ears. - Mark Wallace
C/C++ (I dont see a huge difference between them, and the 'benefits' of C++ are questionable, who needs inheritance when you have copy and paste) - fat_boy
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We haven't finalised that bit yet. We were tempted to hold off but decided getting a better comment system in place outweighed the "My vote of 1" system. Hopefully just a few more days.
OriginalGriff wrote: Part of me would like to see 1 & 5 voting be attributed on all forums
Not clear on what you mean.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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On the previous version of QA a vote of one could not be anonymous - you had to enter a reason, and your name went next to the comment. If this happened on all forums, it would be immediately obvious who is univoting because they don't like the OP or whatever.
I was trying to explain my logic for extending this to votes of 5, but on reflection it doesn't actually contribute anything useful - so please ignore it.
Once again - nice improvement to QA!
You should never use standby on an elephant. It always crashes when you lift the ears. - Mark Wallace
C/C++ (I dont see a huge difference between them, and the 'benefits' of C++ are questionable, who needs inheritance when you have copy and paste) - fat_boy
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Extending this to the forums would require other changes.
Without them we'd have at a minimum this mess:
[Message voted into oblivion]
My Vote of One ($#$()@# spammer)
My Vote of One ($#$()@# spammer)
My Vote of One ($#$()@# spammer)
My Vote of One ($#$()@# spammer)
My Vote of One ($#$()@# spammer)
My Vote of One ($#$()@# spammer)
My Vote of One ($#$()@# spammer)
My Vote of One ($#$()@# spammer)
My Vote of One ($#$()@# spammer)
My Vote of One ($#$()@# spammer)
My Vote of One ($#$()@# spammer)
My Vote of One ($#$()@# spammer)
My Vote of One ($#$()@# spammer)
It gets even uglier when someone is trying to trollstomp because the troll will simply reply back to each 1 vote it gets.
3x12=36
2x12=24
1x12=12
0x12=18
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That's why I said it would probably take up too much screen real estate.
Be nice to be able to tell you univoted you sometimes, though.
You should never use standby on an elephant. It always crashes when you lift the ears. - Mark Wallace
C/C++ (I dont see a huge difference between them, and the 'benefits' of C++ are questionable, who needs inheritance when you have copy and paste) - fat_boy
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OriginalGriff wrote: it would probably take up too much screen real estate
Not necessarily. They could hide 1-vote posts by default and have a little + sign to expand them (or whatever).
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Or why not have it at the bottom of the page as before. Seems a good option to me.
..Go Green..
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I thought posting it here would be more appropriate instead of creating a new thread.
Can we have forced my vote of 1 feature back soon. It's not justified if someone is one-voted and is not given a reason for it.
See this[^]. I feel, asking for a book suggestion is a very much valid question and does not deserve a 1-vote. 
..Go Green..
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In chrome the animation makes the right menu flicker
In IE the same + the area to type the text goes beyond the "box"
In Firefox it all works nicely (so you guys are all using Firefox I guess  )
I know your still working on it but well figured I'd give you guys some more work
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Thanks Tom. I'll throw it on the pile.
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I'm writing a new CP article scraper app and imagine my surprise to discover that the date posted isn't retrieved using any of the normal methods (HtmlAgilityPack, WebClient, or HttpWebRequest). It seems that you're using javascript to display that info on a given article's page.
It sure would be nice if you guys finally got around to providing a web service that allows us to retrieve an article instead of having to scrape the site (and a web service that allowed us to retrieve the reputation points as well).
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001
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Dates are output using plain ol' HTML.
And yes, it'd be lovely if we could get through our current task list faster so we can get this done but we are definitely up against a hard limit of only 24 hrs in the day.
We're trying.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: Dates are output using plain ol' HTML.
If I view source on a browser, it shows up as expected. If I use any of the three methods I listed in my OP,none of the data on the right side of the screen is included in the response. It's truly bizarre.
Chris Maunder wrote: We're trying.
I know, I just thought I'd squeak the wheel a little.
.45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"The staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - J. Jystad, 2001
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Chris, there is more to it than that. I can provide you with a lot of details now.
Executive Summary: UserAgent is very relevant; dates can be off by 1 day.
Details:
1.
I already noticed CP Vanity sometimes shows dates that are off by 1 day when compared with what your article summary page shows. Example:
http://www.codeproject.com/script/Articles/MemberArticles.aspx?amid=648011[^] shows the CP Vanity article with "Last Updated: 6 Apr 2010" which is correct; the article itself also says "Updated: 6 Apr 2010". So far so good.
CP Vanity itself gets the same page (script/Articles/MemberArticles.aspx?amid=648011) showing "5 Apr 2010" and that is what my app displays.
I noticed this weeks ago, never took the time to investigate thoroughly.
FWIW: CP Vanity does not set a UserAgent.
2.
John is having bigger trouble, he wants to load an article itself and says he misses a lot of content.
3.
So I now downloaded CP Vanity[^] using an HttpWebRequest (without UserAgent) and it results in a file of 85KB. When I look at the same page with FireFox, View Source, and save that as text, it is 165KB and contains a lot more information, including menus and the full header block containing "Updated: 6 Apr 2010" which is completely absent in the WebHttpRequest result.
BTW: the UserAgent I used is:
req.UserAgent="Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.0.19) Gecko/2010031422 Firefox/3.0.17";
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The CP Vanity article shows (in Vista/FireFox):
Posted: 23 Mar 2010
Updated: 6 Apr 2010
The same URL downloaded with HttpWebRequest with my own UserAgent (the one my website gets from my system) contains:
<tr><td>Posted:</td><td><b>22 Mar 2010</b></td></tr>
<tr><td>Updated:</td><td><b>5 Apr 2010</b></td></tr>
so both dates are off by 1 day.
Conclusions
1. the UserAgent is very relevant; when absent a very slimmed down page is obtained. That explains Johns main problem.
2. with a realistic UserAgent, dates can be off by 1 day. I don't know why or how. Maybe you have an idea about that.
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