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This is especially brutal when it is a long list that is open and when you click on some other list and the long list closes, the newly opened list now scrolls off your screen and you have to now scroll up to find the open list. 
Chris Meech
I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar]
In theory there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice there is. [Yogi Berra]
posting about Crystal Reports here is like discussing gay marriage on a catholic church’s website.[Nishant Sivakumar]
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My suggestion is that they add a new menu header that never collapses (or maybe allow the user to toggle it, and make that setting persistent) and that contains all the forums with new content. Maybe put it at the bottom of the menu so if it gets too long the excess can be ignored without harming the primary menu items. The ability to pin forums so they appear near the top of that list would also be good (e.g., so I can easily see when the "C#" and "Weird and Wonderful" forums have a new message).
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How about if the add the "pinning" of thread messages to headings? Then we could pin the ones we look at regularly?
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
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How about showing the orange 'new post' dot next to the forum group header as well. That way one could see that there are new messages in at least one forum in that group, and can then click on the header to see what's new.
I think computer viruses should count as life. I think it says something about human nature that the only form of life we have created so far is purely destructive. We've created life in our own image.
Stephen Hawking
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That partly helps, but I don't think it would be as convenient as it should be.
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Zac Greve wrote: How about showing the orange 'new post' dot next to the forum group header as well.
Ideally, there'd be a count - but I'd be happy with a full menu 
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
if you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Exactly what I ended up doing.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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And it works. 
I think computer viruses should count as life. I think it says something about human nature that the only form of life we have created so far is purely destructive. We've created life in our own image.
Stephen Hawking
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I'll second that! 5+
It used to be way easier to spot new categories with new entries.
If you can't settle on the expand all thingy Eddy proposed, why not have the categories that contain new entries appear in bold or some other indicating coloration or whatever.
Cheers!
"With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine."
Ross Callon, The Twelve Networking Truths, RFC1925
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I didn't like it either. I've spent a bit of time tweaking.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Hi Eddy,
At least here on this forum: if I expand the "Product Life-Cycle" heading in the left menu by clicking it: "Free Tools" shows up there: I think that's a strange category for "Free Tools" to be in !
best, Bill
<color>"When it comes to atoms, language can be used only as in poetry. The poet, too, is not nearly so concerned with describing facts as with creating images." Niels Bohr
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I can see a yellow message which reads:
Sorry, no entries were found matching tags VC6, VC7, VC7.1, Win2K, WinXP, Win2003, IE6.0, IE5.5, IE7, VB7.x, VB8.0, VB9.0, C++, C, VB, VBScript, Javascript, XML, CSS, Java, SQL, Windows, WinMobile, HTML, MFC, QA, Linux, PHP, Office, LAMP, MySQL, Google, Flash, Blackberry, Hardware, VB10, Win7, MVC, Recursive, Google-Maps, Excel, Ubuntu, Gridview, User-controls, regular-expression, General, UI, VB.NET, Forms, NeedMysticalPowers, USB, Unicode, Unmanaged, oops, HTTP, TabControl, os, other, HTML5, questions, NoEffort, query, ups, Novice, form, programming
This is strange because if I refresh it then I can see the Q&A that fulfill my filters.
Apart of that, when this happens, the footer of the page appears in the middle of the screen, hovering over "Top experts 24hrs."
Not important, is just to let you know...
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Sounds like a timeout/load issue.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Probably...
Don't worry, I can live with that... 
And as in my company we are with a really slow ADSL connection... who knows...
Thank you!
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When I see the mobile version[^] of CP, it shows 'Full site' option twice at top-left corner.
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I have it too on a windows 7.5 phone
Lobster Thermidor aux crevettes with a Mornay sauce, served in a Provençale manner with shallots and aubergines, garnished with truffle pate, brandy and a fried egg on top and Spam - Monty Python Spam Sketch
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Thanks for reporting it. Fixed, and update due tonight.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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It occurs to me that this forum is more associated with the topics in the General Programming section, than those in General Discussions. A small thing I know but ...
One of these days I'm going to think of a really clever signature.
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This is a link to an 86kb .png file, saved from PhotoShop CS 6, which I hope may contribute to the discussion of "use of vertical space" in the new design of CP[^].
There is an "as is" selection from a screen-shot of this forum (upper left in the .png file), and I have added five other examples that illustrate the effects of perceived vertical-space as you decrease the space between post-titles, and as you decrease the space between lines in one multi-line post-title (i.e., the leading). [1]
I personally do think the new design has gone a bit too far in the direction of "vertical spaciousness." But, it is not a "huge honking issue" for me: just one I enjoy commenting on because of my interest in design and typography that evolved naturally in my former work at Adobe on Illustrator, PhotoShop, and Acrobat.
I have no delusion that I am "real" graphic-designer (which is not meant to imply I am not highly delusional in many other areas)
enjoy, Bill
[1] I have tried to simulate, in my examples for comparison, the color and "weight" of CP's font (I'm pretty sure it's the Segoe UI font, probably in semi-bold), but exact simulation is impossible, because of the very interesting multi-color anti-aliasing that which is rendered from native CP text to the screen.
Examine a sample of this from a screen shot at 3200% magnification to see what I mean: there's a veritable rainbow of colors being used.
I assume it's Windows 7 (I have ClearType activated), and, possibly, the browser (Chrome, in my case) anti-aliasing type like this: it's certainly not CP !
<color>"When it comes to atoms, language can be used only as in poetry. The poet, too, is not nearly so concerned with describing facts as with creating images." Niels Bohr
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Something is planned and should be out soon.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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From my initial "Urgh!" things have improved.
Thank-you for getting rid of the Light Grey on White.
Being a chap of advancing years, and, as a function of those years, decaying eyesight, it was difficult to read!
There are a few other things, all minor but annoying in their own way.
Firstly, once one has gone down a few pages, and wishing to return to the First Page, it is slightly annoying that we have to navigate to the bottom of the page to do so.
Could the "First Page" link at the top be reinstated?
Secondly, the colour change indicator of a clicked link would be nice.
One sees a thread and reads through, but one cannot see the items one has already clicked on.
Even normal HTML defaults to a colour change on clicked items.
Thirdly, thread delineation.
There is no differentiation between threads.
Obviously we do not want hard table lines between them, but some sort of fencing would be nice.
The fourth one is a technical issue.
I was looking at the site on a Netbook and the screen did not resize to fit, but gave me a scroll bar.
Being at work I am unable to give more information, but I will look again tonight and give more details.
Generally, though, I see the small adjustments made over the last few days and I can deal with the site much easier.
But seriously, who decided Light Grey on White? I bet it was someone with eyes like diamonds!
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I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
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Dalek Dave wrote: But seriously, who decided Light Grey on White
The designers. They are a gentle and, evidently, extremely well sighted bunch.
I agree with many of your suggestions.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: They are a gentle and, evidently, extremely well sighted bunch.
And how many of these designers are representive of developers, who (I dare say) make up 90% of CP's audience? Rhetorical question.
Don't get me wrong - I appreciate your unflagging efforts and am grateful for CP. It's materially advanced my career for more than a dozen years. I try to pay back by answering questions and mentioning CP (loudly) to every vendor (and prospective advertiser) I communicate with.
Thanks for reducing the vertical padding in the sections on the home page and addressing the issue of foreground and background colors, at least to some extent. I continue to ask that the padding in the forums be reduced further so that they're at least closer to what they use to be. At a site such as CP, information and screen real estate is king. Large swaths of whitespace reduce the effectiveness of the forums and give the impression that their content is frivolous and sparse, which as we all know, isn't the case.
It's my personal goal to get the SO .NET audience to move to CP. SO's readership already openly touts CP as being the premier source of well-organized source code. Let's get our forums to look crisper and let's get some of that SO traffic to this coast.
Thanks,
/ravi
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Thanks Ravi, and yes, there will be further upgrades to the forums.
The designers are extremely responsive. They actually use CodeProject themselves.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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