The Weird and The Wonderful

3-Apr-19 9:53

I am reading Andy Hertzfeld[^]'s fantastically interesting site (http://www.folklore.org/StoryView.py?project=Macintosh&story=Desk_Ornaments.txt&sortOrder=Sort+by+Date[^]) and I come across this sentence...

Andy Hertzfeld:
I wrote a simple clock, and got the calculator going, modeled after Steve Jobs' design from the calculator construction set.

That leads me to search for : steve jobs calculator construction set

And that leads me to this article:

Steve Jobs Designed The First Macintosh Calculator - Business Insider[^]

There is a picture of the original Mac Calculator.
I took a snapshot for you : https://i.stack.imgur.com/3fmWs.png[^]

Compare that to the Win10 calculator:

https://i.stack.imgur.com/BnYlb.png[^]

It's interesting to see the similarities and differences since they were designed so many years apart.

I think I like the old design because it reminds me of old 8-bit games.

modified 4-Apr-19 6:07am.

Forogar 3-Apr-19 10:03

Forogar

3-Apr-19 10:03

Both these designs suck big time, especially the Mac, but it only has a slight edge in ugliness over the Windows 10 one! The Windows XP calculator is way better than either of them (or even the Windows 7 one).

- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

raddevus3-Apr-19 10:06

3-Apr-19 10:06

Forogar wrote:
Windows XP calculator is way better

I do not wonder which OS was your first. Roll eyes | :rolleyes:

The original Mac team was literally bound by the hardware of the day and came out with that.
It's just odd that we now have advanced H/W and we get the design we see on win10.

Forogar 4-Apr-19 2:19

Forogar

4-Apr-19 2:19

Quote:
I do not wonder which OS was your first.

My first few OSes were mainframes.

- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

raddevus4-Apr-19 5:17

4-Apr-19 5:17

Forogar wrote:
My first few OSes were mainframes.

I was just joking. And, I agree with you, the XP Calculator is really the best looking one. Thumbs Up | :thumbsup:

Forogar 4-Apr-19 5:37

Forogar

4-Apr-19 5:37

This has inspired me.

My company policy does not allow me to install any third party software not passed by the security group - a process that takes months. However, since I am allowed to run self-written programs, I going to write my own WinForm version with all the functions I want on it, none that I don't, and styled the way I want it! Cool | :cool:

- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

raddevus4-Apr-19 7:24

4-Apr-19 7:24

Forogar wrote:
going to write my own WinForm version with all the functions I want on it, none that I don't, and styled the way I want it!

If you want something done right... Big Grin | :-D

ZurdoDev4-Apr-19 9:18

4-Apr-19 9:18

Forogar wrote:
I going to write my own WinForm version with all the functions I want on it, none that I don't, and styled the way I want it!

And that right there is the reason Microsoft rules the Software world. They made it easier than ever to "fix" your frustrations by allowing you to write something better. If Apple had not been so locked down, they might have overcome Microsoft.

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grralph14-Apr-19 21:56

grralph1

4-Apr-19 21:56

I like your attitude.

"Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read." Frank Zappa 1980

CodeWraith5-Apr-19 4:26

5-Apr-19 4:26

ZurdoDev wrote:
And that right there is the reason Microsoft rules the Software world. They made it easier than ever to "fix" your frustrations by allowing you to write something better.

Strange. My frustrations diminish when I throw Mickeysoft out the door.

I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.

His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

ZurdoDev5-Apr-19 4:50

5-Apr-19 4:50

CodeWraith wrote:
My frustrations diminish when I throw Mickeysoft out the door.

You've proven that your opinion on this matter is overly biased and not clearly thought out. Big Grin | :-D

Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.

Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

CodeWraith5-Apr-19 5:10

5-Apr-19 5:10

I don't doctor around with the symptoms and simply remove the source of my frustration. A thing you obviously do not know how to do, or you would know that this is an inherently biased matter. Otherwise there would be no need for an exorcism. Smile | :)

I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.

His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

ZurdoDev5-Apr-19 5:34

5-Apr-19 5:34

CodeWraith wrote:
A thing you obviously do not know how to do

Microsoft products work great for me. Why can't you use them correctly?

Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.

Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

CodeWraith5-Apr-19 5:52

5-Apr-19 5:52

ZurdoDev wrote:
Microsoft products work great for me.

Or is it the other way around?

ZurdoDev wrote:
Why can't you use them correctly?

Because 'correctly' in their case means being treated like their personal nigger with the privilege of handing them some money for the honor. Or short: I don't think their stuff is worth it anymore.

I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.

His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

ZurdoDev5-Apr-19 5:54

5-Apr-19 5:54

Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.

Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

CodeWraith5-Apr-19 7:21

5-Apr-19 7:21

Now don't be so shocked. What you think of their products or their quality is a thing we could probably discuss to no end, but their behavior is not excusable. They grin and say 'take it or leave it'. If they put it that way, then I always leave it.

I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.

His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

ZurdoDev5-Apr-19 7:34

5-Apr-19 7:34

CodeWraith wrote:
their behavior is not excusable.

Their behavior has never messed me up. Again, why are you doing everything wrong?

Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.

Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

CodeWraith5-Apr-19 8:17

5-Apr-19 8:17

Have you ever read Milton? Smile | :)

There alwys are those who can't live in a nice walled garden in a happy and dumb herd.

I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.

His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

ZurdoDev5-Apr-19 8:53

5-Apr-19 8:53

You're pretty full of yourself. Sleepy | :zzz:

Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.

Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

CodeWraith5-Apr-19 9:15

5-Apr-19 9:15

You are not? Then how do you get out of bed every morning and get the confidence to do whatever needs to be done?

I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.

His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

ZurdoDev5-Apr-19 9:20

5-Apr-19 9:20

CodeWraith wrote:
You are not?

Of course not.

CodeWraith wrote:
Then how do you get out of bed every morning and get the confidence to do whatever needs to be done?

Confidence and arrogance are not the same thing.

Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.

Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

CodeWraith5-Apr-19 10:11

5-Apr-19 10:11

ZurdoDev wrote:
Of course not.

Exactly as I thought. You are a good sheep and would never want the herd to think anything else. God forbid!

ZurdoDev wrote:
Confidence and arrogance are not the same thing.

At least you know that, so there is still some hope for you. The next step could be to tell them apart. But be careful: The herd may see you as a black sheep once you do and may, lacking any arguments, try to shame you back into the herd. They might even accuse you of arrogance, just for having the audacity to do your own thing.

I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.

His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

ZurdoDev5-Apr-19 10:17

5-Apr-19 10:17

Either you're trolling or you are stupidly narrow minded. I vote trolling.

Good day.

Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other.

Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

CodeWraith5-Apr-19 11:18

5-Apr-19 11:18

Said the troll himself. Just accusations and a little shaming. Good day to you too, Mr. CEO, and come back when you have some arguments.

I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.

His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

ZurdoDev9-Apr-19 9:51