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BobInNJ24-Nov-11 14:42

24-Nov-11 14:42

I wanted to validate my HTMl so I went to the site: http://validator.w3.org.

The top line of my html is:

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.or
g/TR/html4/loose.dtd">

The message I am getting from the validator is:

 Byte-Order Mark found in UTF-8 File.

The Unicode Byte-Order Mark (BOM) in UTF-8 encoded files is known to cause problems for some text editors and older browsers. You may want to consider avoiding its use until it is better supported.

As far as I can tell, I have no special characters in the file. I would like to fix this error but I have no idea how to do so. I am hoping somebody here can help.

Thanks

Bob

Re: Validating my HTML

Peter_in_278024-Nov-11 15:54

Peter_in_2780

24-Nov-11 15:54

1. What editor (or IDE or whatever) did you create the HTML with?
2. What are you looking at it with?

If you have a hex editor, have a look at the start of the file. Many "smart" editors don't show you the BOM, and some might even use it intelligently.

Cheers,
Peter

Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994.

Re: Validating my HTML

BobInNJ24-Nov-11 16:48

BobInNJ

24-Nov-11 16:48

Peter,

Thanks for the response.

I am on a Windows machine. I am using the version of VI that comes with cygwin. I have also looked at the file by dumping it out with od (also part of cygwin). Neither tool shows and funny characters.

I am also wondering, if my HTML goes through the validator with out any errors, does it really matter? Will it improve my search engine ranking?

Bob

Re: Validating my HTML

Peter_in_278024-Nov-11 17:06

Peter_in_2780

24-Nov-11 17:06

No errors from the validator is good, but not essential by any means. I would guess that a majority of good working web pages would fail 'strict' validation in some way. Browsers are much more forgiving. (Just try one with unterminated lists, badly formed tables, etc. The browser makes a pretty good guess.)
Validation and search engine rankings are orthogonal - they have no correlation at all. I'm guessing the search ending scrapers are just as tolerant of malformed HTML.

Cheers,
Peter

Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994.

Re: Validating my HTML

JaneBlue21-Dec-11 17:32

JaneBlue

21-Dec-11 17:32

Did you type the message in using Dreamweaver, or did you write the content in another app and paste it in? I ask because if you used a word processor sometimes it's hard to tell a special character from a similar regular character. For example, double and single curly quotation marks can look just like straight quotations marks when pasted into another app, but they'll mess things up every time.

Have you considered using the HTML 5 DOCTYPE? Might still give you the problem, but if you're making new pages why not make the break?

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No Character encoding

Jassim Rahma22-Nov-11 7:52

Jassim Rahma

22-Nov-11 7:52

Hi,

Why I am getting this:

No Character encoding declared at document level

when validating my php file in dreamweaver?

Thanks,
Jassim

Re: No Character encoding

User 171649222-Nov-11 8:15

User 1716492

22-Nov-11 8:15

Read these, they will help ...

http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/Unicode.html[^]

http://oli.jp/2009/html5-charset/[^]

modified 1-Aug-19 21:02pm.

Re: No Character encoding

Jassim Rahma22-Nov-11 8:23

Jassim Rahma

22-Nov-11 8:23

hey!!!

I know that!

I already have the:

<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">

but it is populating from include.

I am only asking to check if it's something to do with lang type or if I have to add something to the DOCTYPE because when double clicking the warning in dreamwaver it goes to the DOCTYPE line

Re: No Character encoding

Satheesh154623-Nov-11 6:45

Satheesh1546

23-Nov-11 6:45

Hi,
Please declare this on top of the page
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" >

Same version IE8 displaying page differently on different computers

Dominick Marciano21-Nov-11 6:37

Dominick Marciano

21-Nov-11 6:37

I'm developing a website for my company and have run into a formatting issue that I cannot resolve. I know different browser's can format the same page different ways, so from the start I had two different CSS files; one for Chrome and one for IE8. The webpage displays correctly on all the computers my office in Chrome. However on some computer the webpage is not displaying correctly in IE8.

All the computers are Windows XP SP2 running IE8. All the browsers are running in the same mode (Standards Mode). Some of the computer are running in different resolutions, however I tried all the resolution settings on each of the computer and the page still displays the same way.

The problem is I have a section of HTML wrapped in a

tag called "page". In the CSS file for IE8 I have the following code:

CSS

#page
{
	min-height: 100%;
	margin-top: -388px;
	left: 191px;
	width: 1051px;
	position: relative;
	padding-left: 5px;
	border: none 1px red;
	z-index: 5;
}

Now on the computer where the page is not displaying properly, the "page" element in shifted upwards and I need to change the margin-top: -388px; to margin-top: -310px;. I can't figure out what the position is 70px different between computers with the same OS, browsers, and resolution. I was hoping that I can auto detect something and change the CSS in my code-behind, however they are all running the exact same version of IE, so I don't know what I could detect.

Any help with this would be greatly appreciated. We are supposed to go live the weekend, but my company wants this fixed and I just don't have an answer to why this is occur. Thanks in advance for any help.

Dominick

P.S. I only have the border element so that way I could track the

element during testing. When the site goes live the border will be removed.

Re: Same version IE8 displaying page differently on different computers

Philippe Mori21-Nov-11 13:15

Philippe Mori

21-Nov-11 13:15

Ensure that compatibility button in the address bar is not activated so that the page is render for IE 8 and not a previous version.

Philippe Mori

Re: Same version IE8 displaying page differently on different computers

Satheesh154621-Nov-11 17:30

Satheesh1546

21-Nov-11 17:30

Hi,
please avoid setting negative values to margin attributes...

Re: Same version IE8 displaying page differently on different computers

cjoki23-Nov-11 10:54

cjoki

23-Nov-11 10:54

have you tried a css reset?

http://perishablepress.com/press/2007/10/23/a-killer-collection-of-global-css-reset-styles/[^]

Chris J
www.redash.org

Building a client support software

doctoratn21-Nov-11 5:50

doctoratn

21-Nov-11 5:50

Hello everyone,
Could anyone tell me what are the technologies needed to build a client support software (which processes, organizes, manages client emails) from scratch? Examples of this type of products are: http://www.zendesk.com/[^], http://www.kayako.com/[^] or http://www.h2desk.com/[^]. I wonder if we can use CMS tools like Drupal or Joomla associated with PHP to realize a such project. Your answers will be very appreciated.
Many thanks.

Re: Building a client support software

coded0071-Dec-11 21:22

coded007

1-Dec-11 21:22

You can use any of present day technologies like .net, java, php, sharepoint. Depending up on time line you choose your technology. Drupal or Joomla with php are pretty good. Please check security and performance as main constrains while take such projects.

pictures have been blocked

Jassim Rahma21-Nov-11 5:32

Jassim Rahma

21-Nov-11 5:32

I am sure you know that when sending an email to windows live it will now show the pictures but it will instead display the following message in the alert bar:

Attachments, pictures and links in this message have been blocked for your safety.

However, I have seen some emails coming from some domains and I didn't need to do anything to display the images as it was displayed automatically.

How can I make sure emails going from my domain will be display the images automatically without showing the notification bar?

GET flash file(.swf) 404 error

benams16-Nov-11 21:47

benams

16-Nov-11 21:47

Hi,
I just try to place a flash file in my site, but I see I get the 404 error.
I have looked for the flash file on the server and it exist, so I don't thinks it's the issue.
I attach the code, and the error as well.

The code:
<pre lang="HTML">
<object classid="clsid:d27cdb6e-ae6d-11cf-96b8-444553540000" codebase="http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=7,0,0,0" width="480" height="430" id="move3" align="middle" viewastext>
<param name="allowScriptAccess" value="sameDomain" />
<param name="movie" value="/FilesDB/View3D/Movie_objID_3426_typeID_5.swf?NoCashe=1570316002" />
<param name="quality" value="high" />
<param name="bgcolor" value="#989866" />
<embed src="/FilesDB/View3D/Movie_objID_3426_typeID_5.swf?NoCashe=1570316002"
quality="high"
bgcolor="#989866"
width="480"
height="430"
name="move3"
align="middle"
allowscriptaccess="sameDomain"
type="application/x-shockwave-flash"
pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer"
/>
</object>
</pre>

The error:
GET http://www.loveandpride.com/FilesDB/View3D/Movie_objID_3426_typeID_5.swf?NoCashe=1570316002 404 (Not Found)

Hope you can help me...
Ben

Re: GET flash file(.swf) 404 error

GenJerDan17-Nov-11 3:19

GenJerDan

17-Nov-11 3:19

Because Cache is spelled wrong?

So I rounded up my camel
Just to ask him for a smoke
He handed me a Lucky, I said
"Hey, you missed the joke."

My Mu[sic]
My Films
My Windows Programs, etc.

Re: GET flash file(.swf) 404 error

benams17-Nov-11 4:25

benams

17-Nov-11 4:25

Nice attempt Smile | :)

but spelling is not the issue. I found the real problem - it was the swf file on the server. The file was hidden, and when I unchecked the hidden checkbox, it got to work fine.
You think that there is a chance that the file was hidden deliberately ?

Re: GET flash file(.swf) 404 error

GenJerDan17-Nov-11 4:32

GenJerDan

17-Nov-11 4:32

Hard to do it accidentally, unless they meant for it to be read-only and checked the wrong box.

Or many company policy forbids media files and someone was sneaky...

So I rounded up my camel
Just to ask him for a smoke
He handed me a Lucky, I said
"Hey, you missed the joke."

My Mu[sic]
My Films
My Windows Programs, etc.

Re: GET flash file(.swf) 404 error

benams17-Nov-11 7:44

benams

17-Nov-11 7:44

my question is if it's possible to display a hidden flash file. is there a way to do it?

Re: GET flash file(.swf) 404 error

GenJerDan17-Nov-11 8:08

GenJerDan

17-Nov-11 8:08

Probably not. Microsoft says they did it that way on purpose: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/216803[^]

I wonder if logging into the server as the IIS account (if you can find or set the password), and setting "Show Hidden Files" in explorer would do it... I don't know.

So I rounded up my camel
Just to ask him for a smoke
He handed me a Lucky, I said
"Hey, you missed the joke."

My Mu[sic]
My Films
My Windows Programs, etc.

to Robot or Not to Robot?

Jassim Rahma9-Nov-11 22:24

Jassim Rahma

9-Nov-11 22:24

Hi,

I want to ask about the Robot meta tag?

What's your best practice? is it better to:

HTML

<meta name="robots" content="index, follow">

or:

HTML

<meta name="robots" content="all">

which i guess it's the default?

Re: to Robot or Not to Robot?

R. Giskard Reventlov9-Nov-11 22:28

R. Giskard Reventlov

9-Nov-11 22:28

Perhaps read through this: The Web Robots Pages[^]

"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair.
nils illegitimus carborundum

me, me, me

Re: to Robot or Not to Robot?

Jassim Rahma9-Nov-11 23:20

Jassim Rahma

9-Nov-11 23:20

but are there any pages I should avoid using this tag with it?

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