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I'm sorry, but you have asked this in a forum that is dedicated to people who have written, or want to write articles for Code Project. This is not a suitable place for your question.
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I was having a discussion[^] with Sean that I would like to start here. As in that post, the difference and standard for a Tip and Article is pretty much unclear and it is not obvious, too.
Just to save the new users from shame and guilt they feel when they post Tip as an Article, why not set a requirement to post an Article, otherwise everything is a Tip?
10,000 points and you go without moderation, why not set a similar status, like 1,000 points and you can chose to post as a Tip or Article yourself, otherwise, leave that to Moderator during moderation to select the post type; Article or Tip. It depends on moderators to allow post as a Tip/Article anyways, so why not give them the tools to do so... It does require a second thought, you are free to have a few. Most of the users, as already mentioned, feel sad for their content won't have to undergo that pain if that is managed and maintained by moderator. Once, they come to know about the standard, they will start posting the content as per those standards.
I have been through the same situations, I posted a Tip as Article, learnt quickly. Most don't. So basically, this is not going anywhere, users are going to mistakenly post stuff off-topic, wrong type and much more. Set a filter to the new users and check their posts or allow moderators to do so, I am sure Mentor program was started for this sake. Right?
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modified 17-May-16 12:13pm.
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(I've moved this to the article writing forum).
Quote: why not set a similar status, like 1,000 points and you can chose to post as a Tip or Article yourself, otherwise, leave that to Moderator during moderation to select the post type; Article or Tip
Unfortunately I still see many, many, many moderators not understanding the difference.
I'm going to update the descriptions of Tip and Article to make it painfully clear what is what. The general summary is:
- A tip should be a simple solution to a well-defined problem. "Trying to do X? Then do Y". There doesn't need to be a huge amount of explanation around the theory of what's going on.
- An article should be a little more in-depth and doesn't necessarily solve a problem; rather it provides knowledge, or code, or an introduction, or a deeper understanding of an issue. "Here's a module I wrote for you to use", "here's how to use new some features in language X", "here's a deep dive into concept Z".
Think of the difference as being how long it takes to read and use a piece of content. A tip can be read and comprehended, and hopefully implemented, very quickly. An article will involve more time. A tip may be a couple of pages if there's lots of steps (or images) in the solution. An article may be very short if it's mainly the code that does the speaking (as long as the article explains enough of the code to be publishable.
Alternatively think of a tip as something that, when summarised, would be a good follow up to "Here's a quick tip for you...". There's actually very, very few articles written in this way, and it should be the standard we hold for an article to be a tip.
"Article" is the default type. A "tip" is actually (at the moment) a rare beast.
What I would really like is for members to report an item as "wrong type" and leave it as that. Approve the article, then report it, then let us review and correct if necessary, and it's all done very quietly. Even better would be for everyone to be on the same page as to what's an article and what's a tip, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so that probably won't happen.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Your "general summary" should pop up as a modal dialog when someone chooses "wrong type", to serve as a reminder.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Or should be added to the yellow box, when we are moderating the post.
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
~! Firewall !~
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A modal dialog would be more "in-your-face", and harder to ignore.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Does that modal matter once he has already clicked on the "Wrong Type" option?
The sh*t I complain about
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~! Firewall !~
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My thinking was that the "wrong type" vote wouldn't be submitted until the moderator had read the message and clicked a "Yes, this item is the wrong type" button. Possibly with an option to indicate what type they think it should be, if that doesn't cause too much extra work.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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I have already bookmarked it, will thoroughly go through it. This process is an Article in itself, it takes a lot of time to understand it completely.
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
~! Firewall !~
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Recently, Sean as you notified me, there have been a few changes in the Tips ↔ Article status. This post, How to solve XSS attack - CodeProject[^], would go in Tips, or Articles? It is not about one way of doing it. Provides methods for server as well as client side.
If that is Tip, remove my vote for Approval otherwise let me know if these types of post can make it up as an Article.
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
~! Firewall !~
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Article. Not ... a great one though
Thanks,
Sean Ewington
CodeProject
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Then, what difference does that post or guidance make? This post is not a "straight-forward do this" post, it has some overview, shows both methods. Has more words than most of the tips.
If we are not going to moderate this as an Article, then, I would like to stick to the previous standards of moderation as they were more clear to moderators and new users.
Let's start this in Suggestions forum[^], should we?
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
~! Firewall !~
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The post needs to get better before it can be approved as an article. Something tells me it's been approved in this time so I will have to go back and talk to the author.
It doesn't need to be complicated. If you look very closely at the way we've defined tips, not many posts will be tips. We won't see them very often. I'm sure some things will get through as tips while I'm sleeping and I'll have to chase them around (or wait for the day when we auto-reclassify things), but by and large, they won't appear that often.
In all other cases where you're thinking, "hey, this should be a tip" instead now you think, "what can be done to make this an article."
Thanks,
Sean Ewington
CodeProject
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I'm also involved in approving it and I did made you aware of my vote, should've removed.
Sure, I will keep my eyes open for that, and many this would take a bit time to get started with the new standards for moderation. A question: With this approach, we are more likely to say, "Add this to the post and then re-submit", instead of, "Change it to a Tip/Trick and then re-submit". Right?
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
~! Firewall !~
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It was being edited at the time and I couldn't touch it. :S
Yup, "add this to the post and re-submit." Many of the authors won't, but hey, we can try.
Thanks,
Sean Ewington
CodeProject
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Today, I've multiple times updated my article Smart TextDiff Utility for Intel® 64 Platform[^] and it was successfully approved, *BUT* the new files I've uploaded to the article page were not updated. Instead, the old versions of files are available for downloading. Please make sure that the newly uploaded files are available on the article's page.
Thanks. Arthur.
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Just the download files at the top of the article? Or the images as well?
Thanks,
Sean Ewington
CodeProject
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No, just files to download at the top of the article. Images are displayed correctly.
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I've just checked. The files to download at the top of the article's page can be correctly downloaded. Thanks. I mean that the correct versions of files are available for download.
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I am trying to upload a trick & tips and getting this response - 'The content is either too short or default. - Content contains the phrase 'the code? Did you do anything particularly clever or wild or zany'.
Is there any minimum size limit on the content that it is saying too short. Also my content does not contain the phrase 'the code'. This is confusing, please help. Earlier, also I posted the articles and tips & tricks but did not find this issue.
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Without seeing what you have tried to upload it is not possible to help. I suggest you follow the advice in the submission guidelines:
Package all this up into a single zip file and send it to Submit@codeproject.com.
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Can I find or get the UID Number from my Wifi P2P Camera
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This forum is for questions relating to articles that you have written. Please repost your question in a forum related to the problem you are having.
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Hi. Yesterday, April 31, 2016 I published my article Smart TextDiff Utility for Intel® 64 Platform[^]. A few hours later, the member PIEBALDConsult posted "See Also" comment to the article's discussion forum, in which he recommended me so I would post a link to my article in this page Code Lean and Mean - CodeProject[^]. I exactly followed his recommendation, but I'm just wondering if my article will be actually discussed in this page?? As far as I know this is an outdated completion page which expired far August 31, 2009. Probably, PIEBALDConsult posted a link to this page just for reference so I could review and compare my article to those similar articles that were published in the CodeProject far in the past, or something like that ??
Unfortunately, the "See Also" comment posted by PIEBALDConsult was purged from my article's discussion forum as the result of multiple article's updates. And I'd appreciate if you can help to recover this comment so I can make up my mind of what particularly this comment was about.
P.S. I'm sorry for posting this message to the Article Writing forum because I've not found an appropriate forum under which I can give this question.
modified 1-May-16 1:22am.
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I suspect your article was in the articles approval queue at the time that PIEBALDConsult's comment was made. When an article is posted live, we automatically delete the forum messages because they tend to be things like "you should fix this in the article, you should fix that," which we don't want to carry over. So unfortunately that comment is gone and based on what you have written about it, I can' discern what it was about either.
Thanks,
Sean Ewington
CodeProject
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