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So let me ask you a question, why do they call it Microsoft Windows(TM)
Simple Thanks and Regards,
Brandon T. H.
Been programming in Visual Basic for 4 years this point forward, and is very good at it (I can even create programs completely on code, without dragging those items from the toolbox). Programming C++ for 1 year so far and the same with C#.
Many of life's failures are people who did not realize how close they were to success when they gave up. - Thomas Edison
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Good question.
Simple - because it's based on windows. A button is a window, a list box is a window, a menu bar is a window, a status bar is a window, etc, etc Ad nauseam.
It's for this reason that it's called MS Windows, not MS Forms....
You appear to be suffering the unpleasant part of the cycle that begins with using languages in which what's going on is (predominantly) hidden from the user. You started with VB and are working your way back. I started with ASM and have worked my way forwards. When you start by doing everything the hard way, you can appreciate and understand the effort savings and motivations behind creating easier to use (though less transparent) languages.
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This is not Windows Forms, but pure Windows. There are plenty of introductory articles about Windows programming available, here in the CodeProject articles[^] section, via Google, or through studying Charles Petzold's excellent book[^].
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Unfortunately Charle's Petzold's book that hasn't been updated since 2000 and is now out of print. 
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According to that link the 6th edition will be available as an ebook this year. Amazon has some second-hand copies of the 5th edition.
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The 6th edition is C# and about "metro apps" which reduces it's utility to them that want to write "desktop apps" in C and C++ Win32 programming.
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You're right, I should have read the detail more carefully.
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That's pure c++ win32 code.
I started 14 years ago writing in Visual Basic, and a little c-sharp over the last 5 years for asp.net programs.
I started writing in c++ win32 about 7 months ago, and found that it's a totally different way of thinking. There is no intelli-sense for c++, so it you make an object, and want to assign a value from a list, nothing will appear.
I made the change because there were certain things I wanted to do, that asp.net would not support.
I can tell you that I will never write another windows app in asp.net again, and that anything you write in c++ will blow away asp.net. Learning c++ has made me a better programmer, even in asp.net.
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Yeah I agree with you, C/C++ is way better than ASP.net, the reason why I dived into it is because the development of device drivers and GUI applications (and probably Windows Services).
EDIT: And because it's a good language to start with and a lot of careers/jobs hire programmers with experience in C/C++.
Simple Thanks and Regards,
Brandon T. H.
Been programming in Visual Basic for 4 years this point forward, and is very good at it (I can even create programs completely on code, without dragging those items from the toolbox). Programming C++ for 1 year so far and the same with C#.
Many of life's failures are people who did not realize how close they were to success when they gave up. - Thomas Edison
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For the record you do not write Windows apps in ASP.NET; that is strictly for web applications.
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I learn that the hard way Richard. I have friends that work for Kingston, and they write all there internal windows apps in asp.net. Just the stuff on the memory keys are written in c++ by other engineers.
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jkirkerx wrote: and they write all there internal windows apps in asp.net.
Are you sure about that?
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That's what Wayne in IT in the KT Bowling league told me one night bowling against his team. I'll ask my friend in KT MIS the same question again Friday night. I didn't think much of it at the time, and thought it was the corporate normal.
Perhaps I mean c-sharp or visual basic. He did say c-sharp, because I was looking for c++ help at the time.
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HI ,
I struck in below scenario. please put some light on it.
I have one combobox and edit control in win32 application.
1. i keep on updating my combobox with new data, but while doing that, previous data in combobox missing.
2. when i choose one data item in combobox corresponding value should be updated in edit box.
Thanks,
Goutham.
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Gday.
1. How are you updating the combo box? Please show some code
2. You simply handle CBN_SELENDOK notification messages, when you get one - you ask for the currently selected string then send it to the edit-control.
Note: Selecting an existing item and typing an item into the edit box of the combo-box control send different messages. If you can't(shouldn't) type into the edit box, you should probably be using a list control instead.
CBN_SELENDOK[^]
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Hi,
I am trying to Capture Keystrokes of a Richedit using the vitrual Cdialog::Pretranslate
When I override the virtual function I am getting a access violoation
would it be possible Pretranslate is capturing the debuggers keystrokes
Would I need some directive like if !DEBUG
any help appreciated
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Try commenting out all of the code in your override function. Does the access violation still happen?
If it does not, then the problem is your code, which you can post here for some help.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Hi,
it doesn't happen when I comment out the code
Here is the code to the override for PreTtanslateMessage
<pre lang='cpp'> BOOL CprogDebug::PreTranslateMessage(MSG* pMsg)
{
CHERC_CMDApp *main_app;
MyBaseEvent* myeventptr;
if(pMsg->message==WM_KEYDOWN)
{
if(pMsg->wParam==VK_RETURN) // enter key
{
main_app = (CHERC_CMDApp *)AfxGetApp(); // get main app
myeventptr = main_app->mybaseeventptr; // get event class
strcpy(myeventptr->buffer_ptr," "); // single step
myeventptr->send_window = this; // return to this window
myeventptr->SetEvent(); // signal event
}
}
return CDialog::PreTranslateMessage(pMsg);
} </pre>
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My guess is that myeventptr->buffer_ptr might be null or it might point to unallocated memory.
Step through the code with the debugger and see on which line it crashes.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Countered the bloody univoter.
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Hi,
I have a couple of standalone applications, all written using MFC, which I want to combine them as an application suite.
My company's strategy is writing new applications using Qt. So some day I may be forced to rewrite them using Qt.
In this situation, I have two questions:
1. Do you recommend me to develop new application suite using Qt or not?
2. Which is the best way to combine them? Make plug-in versions of my standalone apps? Make COM versions of my standalone apps? Make libraries of their core functionality and use them in a new UI? Or simply place their codes in a new solutions containing multiple projects, use their individual outputs as standalone projects and use their code in the integration project at the same time? Or what ever you say?!...
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I think there's really no simple answer to this and will depend a lot on your application, the complexity of it and how it will be used.
1. It depends, in a complex application... this may take a long time. Do you have any time constraints? I've never really done a ton in Qt, but I've heard some of our employees who have used it complain about it. In case you've never used it, try with a small application to gauge how painful the move will be.
2. Again, this depends a lot on what your applications do. The plug-in idea is good for certain things, such as ease of expandability, but can cause short-term headaches and support issues (it's easier to break). I can probably go on and on with positives and negatives of each approach but really it just depends on what you need:
- Be able to communicate with apps built in different languages/frameworks (COM)?
- Easily expandable (plug-ins/libraries)?
- Save time in development (time is money after all, multiple exes option)?
- Expect core functions not to change much (library)?
- Expect core functions to be able to be used in multiple projects (library)?
- Do the applications need to do everything they do simultaneously? If not, does it make sense to keep different functionality in some logical grouping (like MS Office, does it make sense to have Excel and Outlook be one program? not likely)?
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Those are good tips for me to consider, Thanks a lot! 
Do you have any reference or clues for me to learn more about application suite development?
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