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Nelek13-Feb-15 10:27

13-Feb-15 10:27

P0mpey3 wrote:
Even so, doesn't warrant an account deactivation. My observation has been that the majority of people who appeal to the admins about their accounts being closed get their accounts re-activated which suggests that the admins agree that some people are being over-zealous.

Partially agree with you.

People being "unfairly" baned, get the account back if they ask, yes. But, on the other hand...

I have seen many members being warned more than once and nothing. Once account closed and being re-opened with a "be careful and don't waste your 2nd chance" those members have learned the lesson and changed the behaviour.

As I said, I see your point and I partially agree. But there is no 100% answer for this and other themas. Sometimes is probably overreacted, but considering the volumen of the abuse...
Don't forget we are at the end just humans and we can be wrong as well.

M.D.V.

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ZurdoDev12-Feb-15 4:13

ZurdoDev

12-Feb-15 4:13

OriginalGriff wrote:
accepted solution, and which were originally posted in 2011...who does that help?

Anyone who finds that question through any searching and the solution helps them.

If it's just a repost of someone else's answer then no, clearly it does not help anyone.

There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

Thanks787212-Feb-15 2:36

12-Feb-15 2:36

P0mpey3 wrote:
Is this really a kickable offence?

It depends on how the solution can be helpful to someone. Sometimes you can clearly see that its nothing more than rep farming. Its totally ok to post solution to old questions if it adds value to it. e.g. i didn't report his two solutions which were really good.

But others were just a crap. Such users should be kicked.

"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly"- SoMad

P0mpeyBoy12-Feb-15 3:11

12-Feb-15 3:11

Rohan Leuva wrote:
Such users should be kicked.

That's your opinion. My question was is it what the site owners would want.

Rohan Leuva wrote:
i didn't report his two solutions which were really good.

So you admit he has made some really good contributions to the site - yet you still decided that his misdemeanor was so bad it required he was removed from the site immediately? Did posting an answer to an old question really outweigh the good answers he has provided?

(Please also see my reply to Griff)

Thanks787212-Feb-15 3:13

12-Feb-15 3:13

P0mpey3 wrote:
That's your opinion.

And a majority concensus till date.

"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly"- SoMad

P0mpeyBoy12-Feb-15 3:29

12-Feb-15 3:29

Rohan Leuva wrote:
majority concensus

No we just know the people who decided to vote the account - We don't know who decided not to vote his account.

Thanks787212-Feb-15 3:33

12-Feb-15 3:33

You misunderstood. I didn't mean that. I mean, we have reported millions of such accounts and they were closed. It happened just because majority people agreed on that,acted on that.

P0mpey3 wrote:
We don't know who decided not to vote his account

So you want that account should be closed after 11,220,707? Do you want two flags stating "Account should be closed or not-Yes/No?".

"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly"- SoMad

P0mpeyBoy12-Feb-15 3:42

12-Feb-15 3:42

Rohan Leuva wrote:
So you want that account should be closed after 11,220,707? Do you want two flags stating "Account should be closed or not-Yes/No?".

Don't be stupid. You know I was responding to your majority claim and not suggesting an alternative.

Thanks787212-Feb-15 5:21

12-Feb-15 5:21

Cool down cool down. This is not your personal playground so mind your language. This is community so everyone has right to express their views. Hence, i reported his account here and enough people thought it as abuse. If you don't think so, ignore it.

If you can't control yourself,don't start discussing anything. If you want to, you have to be polite enough. Learn to debate,not to quarrel.

"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly"- SoMad

P0mpeyBoy12-Feb-15 5:31

12-Feb-15 5:31

You were being stupid I pointed out you were being stupid and you know you were being stupid. As you say "This is community so everyone has right to express their views"

I have a valid point that if you keep going round throwing people of the site for woolly reasons, the site or more accurately the community, will get a worse name than StackOverflow. It's you that seem to have got grumpy because I mentioned it.

Thanks787212-Feb-15 7:13

12-Feb-15 7:13

P0mpey3 wrote:
will get a worse name than StackOverflow

And reason will be people like you.

P0mpey3 wrote:
if you keep going round throwing people of the site

Its not me, its community. There is nothing wrong with it. Such people will get kicked in future also.

I don't debate with those who don't have enough sense how to behave over the internet,so this discussion ends here.

"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly"- SoMad

Nelek12-Feb-15 7:22

12-Feb-15 7:22

Rohan... cool down you too please.

You have to admit that your opinions are sometimes quite "generalist" and "absolutist". Don't surprise if some people react or get mad.

M.D.V.

Thanks787212-Feb-15 8:00

12-Feb-15 8:00

Nelek wrote:
your opinions are sometimes quite "generalist" and "absolutist". Don't surprise if some people react or get mad.

Reply button is meant for such events. Hit it and discuss. But if someone gets so mad that they start using senseless statements which doesn't add much value to the conversation, better such discussion ends at that point.

It seems like you too agree with his last two messages.

"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly"- SoMad

Nelek12-Feb-15 9:58

12-Feb-15 9:58

I am not defending him or attacking you and of course I have not insulted you.

I am just giving a extern point of view. I don't want to get mixed in your discussion, just wanted to avoid getting it worst.

I have answered him 2 times defending your point of view, just with other arguments and other words. But he has the same right to express his thoughts.

The only thing I asked you was to calm down and gave you my opinion about it, and that should not surprise you so much because it is not the first time I have told you something similar.

Once said this, I am going to follow my own words and don't mix me in your debate. Have a nice day Smile | :)

M.D.V.

P0mpeyBoy12-Feb-15 14:21

12-Feb-15 14:21

Hi Nelek, I see where you are coming from here, and I think you see my point is a valid one that deserves to be met with more than a "I'm right so I'm gonna carry on voting regardless".

Nelek wrote:
You have to agree that it is a bit suspicious.

Even so, doesn't warrant an account deactivation. My observation has been that the majority of people who appeal to the admins about their accounts being closed get their accounts re-activated which suggests that the admins agree that some people are being over-zealous.

My main concern is that deleting too many accounts for woolly reasons will give CP a reputation for being over-zealous.

P0mpeyBoy12-Feb-15 14:06

12-Feb-15 14:06

Rohan Leuva wrote:
Its not me, its community

You keep implying it was a 'community' choice but the fact you titled this thread "member already on 9" exposes the truth that you were not satisfied with the community rules that 9 votes doesn't warrant account closure so therefore choose to start this thread with the sole aim of getting this account closed.

Rohan Leuva wrote:
There is nothing wrong with it.

You want his account closed for 'rep-farming'. Lets look at the facts

He had 678 rep points[^] from his 2 and a half years as a member of this site. (You get something like 500 points just for signing up to all the newsletters.)
201 points he has earned in the category you are accusing him of rep-farming from. People here, including yourself, have already said he has provided good answers in the past, so we can stipulate that a good number of the 201 points were legitimately earned. So basically you've kicked somebody who has been a member for 2 and a half years, who yourself admit has contributed in the past, for gaining a good deal less than 200 rep points? Is that the sort of site cP wants to be?

Nelek12-Feb-15 7:17

[Gone] Spam would be article

12-Feb-15 7:17

I already gave my opinion here[^] and here[^]

M.D.V.

den2k8812-Feb-15 0:48

den2k88

12-Feb-15 0:48

~~Article[^] from member[^]~~

EDIT: It's the same Baba Rohan reported

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modified 12-Feb-15 8:39am.

Thanks787212-Feb-15 0:52

12-Feb-15 0:52

And nuked.

"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly"- SoMad

Baba

Thanks787212-Feb-15 0:38

http://www.codeproject.com/script/Membership/View.aspx?mid=11447075[^]

12-Feb-15 0:38

"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly"- SoMad

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Nelek12-Feb-15 7:07

[Gone] Spam would be article

12-Feb-15 7:07

gone

M.D.V.

den2k8812-Feb-15 0:35

den2k88

12-Feb-15 0:35

~~Spam[^] and spammer[^]~~

Geek code v 3.12
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- r++>+++ y+++*
Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

Thanks787212-Feb-15 0:37

12-Feb-15 0:37

I have removed the Article.

"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly"- SoMad

Rajesh waran12-Feb-15 1:31

Rajesh waran

12-Feb-15 1:31

On 5

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