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r41n© wrote: ust because your car ran that long it doesn't mean every car will.
Well, duh... I was giving anecdotal evidence that contradicts your theoretical claims.
We're not talking about cars - we're talking about electronics, and we're really not even talking about the fans in a computer. I've been assembling my own systems since 1985, and have been leaving them on 24/7 since 1980. I've *never* had a system fail in all that time.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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As r41n(C) has already covered the most of the aspect I would like to take up a few more...
o If you are just planning to use it as a File Server which really is a critical job please go for a higher RAM. The reason as the number of concurrent requests will increase the more swapping would be necessary and hence you would unnecessarily stress your HARD DISK...
o Please settle for a SATA disk rather than an IDE which would be cheap and an alternative solution.
o With an 845 Chipset though it is not a Bad Idea to host a File server but it is better you shift off to ICH6 Controlled 945 Mobos which will give better power supply...keep a minimun of 400 W SMPS. Moreover the 945 series will have better on Board RAID Support.
o Whenever you host any server your prime objective would be least maintainance and less failures and MTTR(Mean Time to Recover). So once your Server goes online 24x7 it means it is under less monitoring and more prone to attacks. Have stringent firewalls and also keep a day in a week as maintainance time where u can monitor the health of the disk.
o By your config it looks that you are trying to shunt an Old PC but then you are making it useful as a File Server...So if u don't mind spending a few more bucks please settle for 7200 RPM disk which will reduce the latency time for transactions...
o Now coming back to your Original question...any equipment running 24x7 has few enemies...
oUse heat conducting gels b/w ur CPU and Heat Sink...have a very good ventilation...keep a watch that no fans fail.
oRefrain from stashing the PC(Server) at an unnoticed corner as u would feel it is just a file server, better keep a watch from rat/lizard/ant infestations(believe me I have seen hard disks crashing due to ant infestation)
oMost important the power supply robust. Don't let it suffer any electrical surges.
Happy Computing
There are only two kinds of people who are really fascinating-people who know absolutely everything, and people who know absolutely nothing.
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
Regards...
Shouvik
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It’s really very helpful information from both of you. I have noted down your suggestions. But now I am into two minds. What if I purchase an entry level server, it can solve my purpose with less investment and it will also be reliable as well. If I go with the same old machine I will have to upgrade it as suggested. I have minimum 60 users for accessing the same set server. So which entry level server do you recommend?
Thanks for you Reply
Nikhil Bandekar
Mumbai,
India
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great!!! you are thinking absolutely right pal
60 Users are not really a less to find. If they concurrently access the server then you might be in trouble too. and overhead charges for securing your system would really cost you something in which u can really settle for a dedicated server.
If you really wabt to go for an entry level server you can buy in around 30K
http://dellstoreroa02.sg.dell.com/public/cart/configurator.jsp?prd_id=41167&sr_no=1[^]
or else with robust functionalities and as well rack mounted 1U server then go for 93k
http://dellstoreroa02.sg.dell.com/public/cart/configurator.jsp?prd_id=41174&sr_no=2[^]
I know the latter is a bit costly but it all is in ur needs
Hope I could help you out.
Please revert back for further details
There are only two kinds of people who are really fascinating-people who know absolutely everything, and people who know absolutely nothing.
Oscar Wilde (1854-1900)
Regards...
Shouvik
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First, you should reconsider running a server OS because all infrastructure software costs more if you're running a server OS. Backup software, anti-vrus software, defrag software - everything costs more. Take my advice and run XP Pro instead.
As far as hardware is concerned:
1) You need as much memory as the OS can support, especially if you're serving web pages. For XP, max supported memory is 3gb. For 2003 Server, I think it's 8gb.
2) Your CPU is pretty slow, but you may get decent performance as long as your web pages aren't very popular.
3) If you're serving files on your intranet AND serving web pages, I'd use three separate hard drives, a 60gb for the OS, a 80gb for the web sites, and at least a 320gb for intranet files.
4) Invest in a decent name-brand power supply. The power supplies that come in most computer cases are just barely able to do the job. I would get nothing smaller than a 500w PSU.
5) Make sure you have a decent case. A case with LOTS of room, and that supports at LEAST two 120mm fans. Heat kills electronics. A small case allows a lot of heat build up.
6) Get the cheapest video card you can find. There's no reason to have a fancy video card on a server. I think the one I have in my server cost me $15 new, and the circuit board is a little larger than a credit card. It generates almost no heat at all.
7) Invest in a large UPS - at least 1500vA. If you lose power, you don't want your server to shut itself down
8) To effect prompt repairs, always keep spare parts available. Essentially, you should have enough parts to actually build a second machine.
Leaving the machine on 24/7 is actually better for it than powering it up and down every day. The reason is the small power surge that hits all the components when you turn it on.
Above and beyond all of the above, always buy quality retail components. If nothing else you'll have a warranty so you can replace stuff that breaks prematurely.
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001
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Can you explain me the following sentence,
"The reason is the small power surge that hits all the components when you turn it on."
Thanks
Nikhil Bandekar
Mumbai,
India
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When you turn the machine on there is a small power surge :P
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Also powering up/down creates differences in temperature that cause everything to expand and contract.
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how to break the password of another person id if they were using nos in password
vivek nanda
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chapathi wrote: how to break the password of another person id if they were using nos in password
Password for what?
nos? National Osteoporosis Society? Nitrous Oxide Systems?
Why would you want to break someone elses password other than for dodgy reasons?
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bcoz one dog had theft my cash.... am having only his id if i break his password then i can trace him and futher it wonn happen to anyone else thats y.
vivek nanda
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chapathi wrote: bcoz one dog had theft my cash.... am having only his id if i break his password then i can trace him and futher it wonn happen to anyone else thats y.
Well thats not the right way to go about it and it's illegal so go ask somewhere else.
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Hi
Anybody having idea how to detect the no. of ethernet port and no. of configured NIC cards in to computer.
any api calls help ?
Please write your views on this.
sonani prakash
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WMI is always good for retriving this sort of stuff.
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Thanks for pointing out.
But currenlty I am thing i can first get the adaptor information and then can see if it is ethernet adaptor or not..
but how to find whether it' is ethernet adapter or wirless adaptor or any other..
Is there any way to get from this adaptor that it is 802.3 standard adaptor or
802.11 for wirless.
Thanks in advance.
sonani prakash
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Again, WMI and the Win32_NetworkAdapter class. You can get the configurations with the Win32_NetworkAdapterConfiguration class. Search for those two classes on MSDN.
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Thanks,
Yes I have been working on this still it does not say media type..
I want to find out specific difference between ehternet adapter card and wirless ethernet card...
mean to say in my machin if i have lot's of types of adapter installed and I want only ethernet specific adaptors.
I am looking into currently DeviceIoControl..
sonani prakash
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Sonani Prakash wrote: Yes I have been working on this still it does not say media type..
I want to find out specific difference between ehternet adapter card and wirless ethernet card...
Apparently "MediaType" is all you looked for. It's the AdapterType field in the Win32_NetworkAdapter class.
Sonani Prakash wrote: I am looking into currently DeviceIoControl..
You're wasting your time.
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It's amazing how people don't even take the time to do a little investigation 
It'd take a couple of minutes at most to find out what was needed even from my threadbare answer of 'WMI' :/
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<shrug>I know!  </shrug>
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See the problem is AdapterType field is not showing me seperation of wirless card and ethernet network adatper card.
second thing is Media type into registry is only supported for XP OS it's not there even for vista also...
That's y still struggling in finding no. of ehternet network card adapter(this should not be wirless ethernet card or dialup card or any othercard..)
I want it should support 802.3 stadards..
sonani prakash
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Sonani Prakash wrote: See the problem is AdapterType field is not showing me seperation of wirless card and ethernet network adatper card.
Yes, it does. The possible values for AdapterType are (taken straight out of the documentation!):
"Ethernet 802.3"
"Token Ring 802.5"
"Fiber Distributed Data Interface (FDDI)"
"Wide Area Network (WAN)"
"LocalTalk"
"Ethernet using DIX header format"
"ARCNET"
"ARCNET (878.2)"
"ATM"
"Wireless"
"Infrared Wireless"
"Bpc"
"CoWan"
"1394"
Now, if your network adapter does NOT put the correct adapter type into the WMI Provider, it's the fault of your cards manufacturer.
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Medea type is only suported for xp and second thing adapter type does not give any seperation for wirless and ethernet network adapter card.
so i want only no. of ehternet network cards.
sonani prakash
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Search for the IP Helper Api's.
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my system is having blutooth and my mobile is having too ,its possible to connect net to my system witout using datachord and my mobile :6600
-- modified at 4:58 Wednesday 18th July, 2007
vivek nanda
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