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Probably...
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Nelek wrote: many products would be better if the devs would just get the opportunity to actually do their jobs.
Truer words were never spoken!
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
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Nelek wrote: Or following all new fuzzword bingo technology of the day
I like to tell people, you know, this all compiles down to JavaScript and most of it relies on proxying objects. So why are using this "technology of the day" instead of figuring out what you really need and write it in JavaScript yourself, or at least just TypeScript.
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Try designing stuff before going gung-ho with implementation on a unsupported technology / buzzword.
GCS d--(d-) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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Would you work for an unethical company—even if that company paid you a lot of money? I'm pretty sure we know the answer to that one
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Not if the president of the company was named Dr. No. (Unless I got out early.)
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We definitely know the answer to that one. Governments have no problem finding minions.
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Greg Utas wrote: Governments have no problem finding minions. And they pay way less than some companies...
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Given some of the industries I've worked in....
And I discovered that there's always a group of people that will find something unethical about any company. And I really do mean any company, whether its what they do, how they do it, what their manufacturing process is (if they make some real physical product), etc. The very fact that it's a "technology" company or a company that uses "technology" is enough to set some people off.
Heck, you can't even build a windmill to tilt at without an environmental impact statement (disrupting wind patterns, killing birds with the spinning "blades", structure height violates zoning laws, yada yada) and someone complaining about deforestation.
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Hi Mard,
imho: unfortunately, the rationale you cite for tolerating "sticky" ethical scenarios is exactly the same rationale that, in history, has been used by those who "turn a blind-eye" to crimes against humanity, and other abuses.
Personally, I would never work for repressive regimes, or, industries like porn, gambling, tobacco, blood-diamonds, coal, alcohol, or work with business empires like Trump's.
"Somebody else will do it if i don't:" a dangerous slogan.
not a Puritan; cheers, Bill
«The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled» Plutarch
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Hi Marc,
imho: unfortunately, the rationale you cite for tolerating "sticky" ethical scenarios is exactly the same rationale that, in history, has been used by those who "turn a blind-eye" to crimes against humanity, and other abuses.
Personally, I would never work for repressive regimes, or, industries like porn, gambling, tobacco, blood-diamonds, coal, alcohol, or work with business empires like Trump's.
"Somebody else will do it if i don't:" a dangerous slogan.
not a Puritan; cheers, Bill
«The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled» Plutarch
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Define 'unethical.'
If i knew, or guessed, the company was involved in illegal activities: no !
If i saw the company as a whole tolerated any kind of abuse related to age, race, gender, or religion, in the work-place: no !
«The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled» Plutarch
modified 1-Nov-21 7:58am.
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Giving you the benefit of the doubt here, I suspect you meant "no".
It makes it sound like you're actively looking for companies involved in illegal or discriminatory behaviour.
"If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough."
Alan Kay.
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thanks for catching that, Rob: was it the darks side of my psyche that typed "yes," instead of "no" ?
«The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled» Plutarch
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Define "unethical", or give a particular case; "unethical" is too vague a term.
If I was aware that the company that I was working for was performing illegal actions, I definitely would leave; I don't want to be tarred with the same brush.
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Define "illegal", "illegal" might be too vague a term.
What in a country is allowed and even expected is a big No-Go in other places...
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I didn't know there was an option.
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Ethics is associated with individual humans - not companies. There are no ethical or non-ethical companies.
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And therein lies the problem, as the individuals do not seem have culpability - limited liability was an awful idea.
"If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough."
Alan Kay.
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What's ethical and for whom? I won't work in toxic work environments, that's it.
Heck, I'd love to work on weapons.
I'd probably avoid porn industry just because most users and producers are creepy, and recreational drugs because they go against my own personal principles. Everything else is fair game.
I forgot I briefly worked for a couple of lady-for-rent sites. Stopped because they didn't pay.
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Google's new AI architecture could turn machine learning systems from one-trick ponies into much more versatile and insightful programs. So it can take over all the banking systems, calculate pi, and exterminate everyone at the same time!
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It looks like you wouldn't believe in their "do no evil" slogan
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The Oracle JDK is available free of charge for production use again - under the new "Oracle No-Fee Terms and Conditions" (NFTC) license. Just in time for me to continue to ignore it
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Quote: Oracle's JDK 17 - Free again for commercial use Until enough people is using it and then the JDK 18 comes with an updated terms of agreement and a new license model...
They somehow have to feed their legal department... don't they?
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Advances make high-density, 5D optical storage practical for long-term data archiving Almost enough for that Photoshop install
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