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Probably because most of those gets knocked out of interviews before they have a chance.
You know, like a not as well written resume.
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They say they want people that can "take initiative", but when you do something you're not tasked with doing, or that isn't logged into team foundation as a bug, everyone freaks out, and you end up getting in big time trouble for wasting company resources.
Beyond that, most people don't know how to communicate with a programmer. The good programmers have already mentally fixed the bug and are already four-five steps ahead of the perceived problem, talking about the possible side effects, when everyone else is still trying to comprehend the nature of the bug itself.
This is usually the point where the programmer tunes out of the conversation, and fantasizes about finding a new job where everybody is a programmer, and where meetings like this are a lot less likely to happen.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
- When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
modified 5-Sep-16 8:29am.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: "take initiative", but when you do something you're not tasked with doing Been there, got yelled at. In fact, in my last review they asked me to take "more initiative" I told them everytime I do you yell at me. "Oh".
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Beyond that, most people don't know how to communicate with a programmer. Bingo.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: already mentally fixed the bug and are already four-five steps ahead of the perceived problem Been there many times.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: programmer tunes out ... new job... Yep, looking right now...
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Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: Beyond that, most people don't know how to communicate with a programmer. The good programmers have already mentally fixed the bug and are already four-five steps ahead of the perceived problem, talking about the possible side effects, when everyone else is still trying to comprehend the nature of the bug itself.
Spot on, John.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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The piece that HR types are missing is that there are lots of folks with those skills, they're just no longer willing to put them to use for a company that will lay them off to give the CEO a 1/2% increase in his stock portfolio.
I'm not going to put forth my best effort for the enrichment of others. The democratization in many areas that the internet has given us means that people's most creative efforts are put towards personal projects. They won't be given for the sake of a company's shareholders.
I suppose you could call it the most passive-aggressive work stoppage of all time.
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The weird part is how many employers actually freak out when you "communicate clearly." Of course, what they mean is that they want works to "clearly communicate what we want to hear."
And getting "along with co-workers" does not include communicating clearly to your boss that a specific co-worker "is in over their head." (I was being kind.)
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At its core, the suit is meant to strike down a law that stops companies from disclosing when the government is trying to dig into your information. "Who now has the strength to stand against the armies of Isengard and Mordor?"
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Google fighting for digital privacy? Am I the only one seeing the irony of that sentence?
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
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Wait till FB gets on board, that will be moving into the realms of the ludicrous.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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In a serious vein, why are people so freaked out about what non-private settings are turned on for Windows 10, but utterly apathetic about the same with Android (which makes it all but impossible to actually turn some settings off.)
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For me, one of the reasons is that it's on my desktop and control is being taken away from me where before I had it. On my mobile device, I guess I've just kind of accepted not being able to have as much control (although android gives me much more than iOS). Also, I do less things on my mobile device (intentionally, for privacy reasons) than I do on my desktop so that somewhat mitigates the intrusion/snooping factor.
You're right that it's not completely rational, but it is what it is. Mobile devices have always sort of "been that way", whereas desktop computer users have usually been able to have more control of their computing experience. I think at least on a subconscious level, peoples' reaction to MS exerting more control is due to this shift that is taking place. I think if mobile devices had started out the same way PCs had, there might be a similar reaction.
One of my big problems is that with Windows 10, it is like MS is trying to turn my computer into a "device", rather than my tool over which I have control. I understand that some people really see this as a big benefit or a plus. Me, not so much. No judgement there; everybody's tastes are different. But the problem is MS has given me no way of easily turning it off or opting out (hunting through the registry and various configuration screens doesn't count) other than staying with MS and complaining vociferously or jumping ship and going with another OS.
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Windows 10 does need a "Turn it all off" button, after which I'll turn on what I need.
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Gambas is a free development environment and a full powerful development platform based on a Basic interpreter with object extensions, as easy as Visual Basic. Because I know you're all looking for a VB alternative
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To be honest... I prefer the "gambas al ajillo"
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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At least is is nice and fresh so it hasn't started to stink yet.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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OpenOffice, once the premier open source alternative to Microsoft Office, could be shut down because there aren't enough developers to update the office suite. More like ShutOffice, amirite?
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Another success story of Oracle...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Oracle have optimised Microsoft's old strategy of Embrace, Extend, Extinguish.
1. Embrace.
3. Extinguish.
"If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough."
Alan Kay.
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Better than that they only have an "Ex".
EX-TER-MI-NATE!
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani
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Or just, Terminate!
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Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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It seems to be a trend with Oracle: inherit an open source project from Sun, start running it in a hamfisted manner, and then watch in astonishment as most of the developers fork the project and continue it under a new name.
So far, it seems to work out decently for the projects. Jenkins has done well since splitting from Hudson, and the transition from OpenOffice to LibreOffice has seemed pretty seamless (at least from the perspective of an end user).
In the cases of both Hudson and OpenOffice, Oracle threw in the towel and donated the projects to the Apache foundation, but it was too late as the developers had already moved on to the forked projects. They seem to be putting more effort into MySQL, at least, but even there the forks of the MySQL (MariaDB and Percona beings the most prominent) seem to be where the innovation is happening.
I know there are many critics of open source software (some make decent points, some don't), but I think that these examples indicate open source projects (popular ones, at least) aren't necessarily doomed by malice or incompetence on the part of their corporate stewards.
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Isn't is possible that Oracle threw in the towel because the source code of those projects was a mess? Every bit of source I've seen from Apache makes me recoil in horror.
There are amazing open source projects; very few, if any, are under the Apache umbrella.
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Definitely. The code doesn't look bad...just big and complex. Here's a file I chose arbitrarily. One out of thousands. It looks clean enough, so the project probably has decent coding standards...but it's definitely a non-trivial project to maintain and improve.
I think there's a good chance that they threw in the towel because they didn't see any business value in continuing to support the project, which is a perfectly good reason for them to drop it and move on.
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The ribbon in Microsoft Office is irritating, but the damn suite pretty much always works, unlike OpenOffice which seems to selectively work. (Then there are the "extra" apps in the OpenOffice suite which totally suck.)
Incidentally, is this the right time to opine that most Apache software is unbelievably bad and badly written? They truly give open source a bad name.
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