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Don't forget null[^]. There's only six of them
My blog[ ^]
public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
{
public void DoWork()
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throw new NotSupportedException();
}
}
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Also a guest appearance by MC#
I know where my coat is...
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If I tried to code by that I would nod out after a few minutes. When coding need something more stimulating.
New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.0
My goal in life is to have a psychiatric disorder named after me.
I'm currently unsupervised, I know it freaks me out too but the possibilities are endless.
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So the guy started a kickstarter for this. I don't get it.
Why would someone pay someone else ahead of time for their intellectual pursuit -- creation of intellectual property -- which shouldn't cost the creator anything at all? Why?
Plus, I believe that the Kickstarter indicates that the person wouldn't do the work -- music creation -- without the money backing it? Why not?
The answer that comes to mind: he isn't motivated enough to do it out of a pure joy he'll receive from doing the work. I'm not motivated enough to even watch or listen to the music because of that, because I figure the music will be completely uninspired.
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You have just explained/replicated my reaction to most of the stuff on KickStarter.
And here I thought I didn't understand it because I was too old.
TTFN - Kent
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The person dedicated time and effort into his music, just like you do in your software.
I don't know about your clients, but my companies' clients pay a part of the money up front, before any software is written. Why would they do that? It doesn't cost us anything to make (well, assuming my company wouldn't pay me, because it doesn't cost me to make them software)... But it doesn't work that way! Does that mean your software is uninspired? It certainly DOES mean you wouldn't write it if you didn't get paid...
It's called capitalism. People work and they get paid for it.
Kickstarter is just a platform for people with idea's to find customers who are willing to pay for a potential product. Nothing wrong with that. If you're good at something never do it for free (I believe The Joker said that in Batman: The Dark Knight).
That isn't to say you shouldn't or couldn't do something for free, or for your own pleasure every once in a while.
My blog[ ^]
public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
{
public void DoWork()
{
throw new NotSupportedException();
}
}
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Sander Rossel wrote: It's called capitalism. People work and they get paid for it.
Just to keep it clear. I like capitalism very much. I think it is a balanced system.
[That last sentence will probably bring out the trolls.]
You work, your produce something valuable and you get paid. If you don't, you don't.
But, it always bugs me to see people who are creating things asking for money before the thing is even created. It's just my opinion however and to each is own.
Also, I think you make some very good points.
And, I guess you are right, they pay me a salary before I have created everything I'll ever create. There's just something different about kickstarter, can't quite put my finger on it.
Again, it's like this whole begging thing, "won't you please give me money and then if you do I'll make the thing." Marketing before the production. I don't know. Just odd to me.
Good discussion though.
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newton.saber wrote: There's just something different about kickstarter, can't quite put my finger on it. You're paying for products you're going to have to pay for? It's not always a business (like in this case) asking for your money? You're giving money, but you're not getting a product?
It's probably more like donating. And sometimes it works really very well... 8.7 million for a goal of 10,000?[^]
My blog[ ^]
public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
{
public void DoWork()
{
throw new NotSupportedException();
}
}
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I know The Oatmeal is funny and all, but the game looks somewhat ridiculous like you'd play it one time and after that it would just be the novelty of the card design. well, maybe that's it. As a card player and gamer it doesn't look that great. But again, Kickstarer is...wait here it is....
Kickstarter is the consumer paying for marketing.
That's it. There's no product on Kickstarter. Instead you are buying the marketing.
Just like American Idol -- let's get the people to pay for marketing, then after that, there is no "product". Ingenious!! and/or EVIL!!
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Sander Rossel wrote: It certainly DOES mean you wouldn't write it if you didn't get paid
Right after I finished that other reply I thought about this sentence above that you said.
Honestly, I've written quite a few articles here that probably have some value and I've written tons of software that I am happy I created and received something other than remuneration. I honestly do create tons of stuff whether I'm going to get paid or not.
I like who I become as I create. Now, with that said, I certainaly wouldn't turn down $1USD or $1 billion USD if someone were to pay me.
Sorry I'm replying so much, this topic just really makes me think.
None of us can ever be paid what we are worth -- but many people believe that is what it has to do with. We have far more value than money.
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newton.saber wrote: None of us can ever be paid what we are worth We have a saying in Dutch, freely translated "it's worth what the nut pays for it", or you're worth as much as someone is willing to pay. If someone is willing to pay you a couple of millions for picking your nose then picking your nose is suddenly a very valuable skill. Even though it's worthless to everybody else.
It's like beauty... It lies in the eye of the beholder
My blog[ ^]
public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
{
public void DoWork()
{
throw new NotSupportedException();
}
}
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Very well said and so true.
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I like dance and or techno reeeel quiet when I code.
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Desktop browser continues to bleed user share; combined desktop + mobile share falls under 10%. Once, huge flocks roamed the web, now only Yahoo keeps them alive. Won't you donate today to keep this majestic beast going?
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Actually, it's 16%, according to StatCounter. Net Applications use "gamed" data to generate browser stats.
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Well, that's much better then
TTFN - Kent
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it would be a good browser if they occasionally matched up a free with a malloc
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OpenDNS develops filter that can recognize exploit pages before they're served up. This might save me when my fingers type 'coedproject.com' again
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Is that a Freudian slip there Kent?
"If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough."
Alan Kay.
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I actually checked to make sure it wasn't one of those sites. It had me a little worried at first.
TTFN - Kent
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We love being open with everything we do (including infrastructure), and really consider it one of the best job perks we have. So here’s how and why we upgrade a data center. Pffft. Like StackExchange knows anything about network traffic.
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This partnership has been very productive and rewarding experience for us, and as part of this collaboration, we're happy to announce that Angular 2 will now be built with TypeScript. We're looking forward to seeing what people will be able to do with these new tools and continuing to work with the Angular team to improve the experience for Angular developers.
Awesome!
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JMK-NI wrote: Awesome! Sure! Especially if you have an Angular 1 project that you can not update, but only re-write...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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