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Does anybody know the KB number for this one?...I'd like to change it to 'Hide' 
I didn't think they could get more arrogant than they were during Ballmer, I guess I was wrong.
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This might cover[^] the right numbers.
Yeah, the Windows team is isolated from arrogance-removal (or possibly they just have a generator in the basement).
Ah, trust the good folk at Ars to have it figured out[^].
TTFN - Kent
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It says the offending update is KB 3035583, which we've known for a while was nagware to upgrade to Windows 10...it looks like it is even more sinister than we first thought!
Ah well, I have it hidden, already and I have Automatic Updates turned off, so I'm safe.
Thanks for the link!
Update: According to the article, here are the updates you have to block in both Windows 7 and 8.x:
Windows 7:
3035583
2952664
3021917
Windows 8.x:
3035583
2976978
modified 11-Sep-15 15:10pm.
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Up next; pre-downloaded images of the next (trial but ready to upgrade to paid) version of Office 
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Yep, coming September 22 to a hard drive near you.
Hopefully we can find the KB numbers to turn that off too
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Microsoft announced this morning the official launch date for the long-anticipated new version of Microsoft Office: Office 2016 will be broadly available starting on September 22, the company says. Now with... uhm, well there has to be something in there worth an upgrade, right?
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Are there any pre-made VMs I could give it a fiddle in?
I can use a work discount to get a copy for $10; but having rolled back from 2013 to 2010 over a boneheaded regression in Outlook* I want to try it first and (as always) an an infinite slacker. Downloading and double clicking a VM image with it pre-installed would be the easiest option, so that's what I want.
- The hard coded can't be changed window for the appointment sidebar was reduced from 1 month to 1 day (later patched up to a week in the face of user revolt); something that only an MS PM whose entire life is scheduled into 30 minute meeting would think is a good idea.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Kent Sharkey wrote: Now with... uhm, well there has to be something in there worth an upgrade, right?
It will be touchscreen aware and bring back my beloved menu 
Noo, joking just more blinkers as usual, with new ribbon and new color sheme.
Patrice
“Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.” Albert Einstein
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I regretted upgrading to 2013...Excel 2013 is always crashing on me...I'm afraid to install updates anymore, more than half the time they make things worse.
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I am having 1 years experience in .net in web side.For best career growth which one i choose?
WPF(Windows)
or Web(ASP.net MVC)
Please guide me..
Thanks in advance
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Is it a slow news day today?
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
modified 31-Aug-21 21:01pm.
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You posted this in the wrong forum.
Try Here[^]
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
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Firstly this isn't the best place to put this discussion as its more for people to place industry news items.
Secondly I personally would look at this from 2 directions
1. Which has the most job opportunities in your area.
2. Which do you enjoy more.
But choosing either role has opportunities for career progression.
Every day, thousands of innocent plants are killed by vegetarians.
Help end the violence EAT BACON
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Stick with what you know and grow that skill set.
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I fear wrong forum.
I would say the best choice is where local companys offer most jobs.
Patrice
“Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.” Albert Einstein
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... but wasn't SFW enough.
http://www.engadget.com/2015/09/09/comic-predicted-ipad-pro-keyboard/[^]
(Linking to Engadget's mirror because net ninny is blocking the original page at work.)
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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How many times has Microsoft "innovated" too early.
The one that gets me the most is single-sign-on. Everyone signs on with Google or Facebook these days, but who remembers .NET Passport?
Apple Pencil. Jobs would be spinning in his grave.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote: who remembers .NET Passport?
Err me. I also remember what a complete PITA it was to set up and work with. Okay, the PassportProvider was simple enough to use in ASP.NET apps. but the rest of it was a complete nightmare.
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Thank God OAuth and OpenID are so much better :P
(Actually they are trivial nowadays, but back-in-the-day...)
I was thinking more along the "OMG MS is gonna OWN me!" rants, and the legal challenges, and the FUD, and all the running around like headless chickens.
Until we all realised that single-sign-on is really, really convenient.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote: Thank God OAuth and OpenID are so much better :P
(Actually they are trivial nowadays, but back-in-the-day...)
Yup. Until a few years ago, my standard rejoinder to anyone who was arguing OAuth/OpenID were better than passwords was to take a look at how their Mom would react if she tried to create a Stack Overflow account. Initially it was an unholy cluster elephant involving a popup window and copy/pasting a magic URL around.   (I picked on SO mostly because at the time it was probably the best known user of the tech among developer sites, and has a user experience so awful it'd scare 90% of mundanes away before they had created their account).
Yeah the tech Just Works (tm) now; but the interval from the initial hype to that point was many years long.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Me too 
I remember skipping the screen when installing windows 
Patrice
“Everything should be made as simple as possible, but no simpler.” Albert Einstein
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Dan Neely wrote: ... but wasn't SFW enough.
Exactly why I skipped it yes. But it was so, so true. 
TTFN - Kent
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Language popularity indices are often based on books purchased or StackOverflow questions. However educational institutions have institutionalized teaching languages such as Java, C, C++ and RDBMSs such as MySQL originally because they where free open-source, not owned by a specific company and were popular a decade ago.
As a result these indices do not reflect usage of languages or technologies used professionally (as opposed to used for learning - all the students buy the books and ask questions online for the language in their course).
Now that ORACLE owns Java and MySQL will this change? It doesn't seem to have yet. C# in particular I suspect is much more popular in the work place than indices show - because academic institutions had an aversion to teaching a "Microsoft" language.
I am speaking in general of course - though I am yet to see even today a Computer Science student who used C# in one of their courses.
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I enjoyed reading your opinions, but, without citing sources (recent sources with some scientific credibility), your arguments and hypotheses, while possible, do not convince me they are more highly probable than the "usual suspects."
Did you read the other article cited on this forum (on InfoWorld) ? If you did, it appears their methodology of looking at activity on major search engines did not register on you, since you do not mention that in your "indictment" of other studies.
"Tiobe assesses language popularity via a formula that analyzes searches in popular search sites, such as Google, Bing, Yahoo, and Wikipedia. The improved algorithm addresses the number of outliers -- "statistical noise" -- per search engine, Tiobe said in its monthly report for September."
Did you think of doing a simple Google search on "C# use in academic:" if you do, you will find evidence for C# being used in universities/colleges, like Cornell, and others.
Your post seems to me more appropriate for the Lounge ... that's not a "put-down" !
cheers, Bill
«I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.
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