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Maybe it would be better if cameras and mikes came as optional extras.
The fist thing I do with any laptop is tape over the camera and then fanny around trying to disable the microphone. I don't have any purpose for a camera or a mike on a laptop, so why do I have to pay for the damned things?
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PeejayAdams wrote: for a camera or a mike on a laptop
Mike who?
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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For the better part of two years, the folks at Mozilla have been diligently chipping away at Project Things, an open implementation of the World Wide Web Consortium’s (W3C) Web of Things standard for monitoring and controlling connected devices, and today, they reached a major milestone. Project Things is graduating from its experimental phase with a new name — Mozilla WebThings — and gaining a number of logging, alarm, and networking features. Is that ... a feeling of hope? Deep in my dark, cynical chest?
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The internet giant is increasing the ways advertisers can reach Google Maps users "Turn left at, 'First Street.' Also, try the new McDonald's Mushroom & Swiss Burger. I'm lovin' it."
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I spent two weeks in the underbelly of Amazon's fake review economy — and emerged questioning our collective trust in the stars. What do you mean this used exfoliating brush isn't "amazing?"
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Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey took the stage today at the TED conference. Dorsey suggested that he’s trying to find ways to redesign Twitter to shift the “bias” away from accounts and toward interests. "Moving forward we will not tweet -- we will twat."
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He could always stop banning accounts that give opinions that don't meet the progressive-liberal-left narrative. It's no secret that anyone with an opinion to the right of Gandi is not welcome on Twitter, and he has conceded this in his admission that there is bias on the platform. This is why Gab was created.
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Indeed, such is the terrible nature of censorship that one can only marvel at how the glorious leader of the USA manages to Tweet eight impossibly stupid things every day before breakfast.
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I would much prefer people were allowed to tweet stupid, even offensive things, than have censorship.
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So you would be happy for Al Queeda to have a platform?
Would you extend the same freedom to paedophile rings?
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I'm talking about the right to free speech. To my knowledge terrorist groups and paedophiles are both illegal.
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Dominic Burford wrote: I'm talking about the right to free speech
So am I.
If you believe in free speech as an absolute, you believe in the right of anybody to advocate anything and that includes Islamists, paedos, nazis and other assorted pond-life.
If you accept that free speech comes with inherent limitations against advocating illegality and indecency, then you should accept that Twitter are right to ban certain offenders without such actions being labelled as excessively censorial.
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You're taking edge case examples to try to prove a general point. It doesn't work.
Moving on, Twitter has banned many people for wrongthink. They have banned many conservatives for example for stating opinions which differ from the echo chamber inhabited by progressive-liberals. People have been suspended for opinions such as transgender men and not men (and consequently transgender women and not women). Deadnaming and misgendering are also offences that can get you kicked off the platform.
Do you agree or disagree that those with contradictory views should be suspended / banned from Twitter?
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The edge-cases absolutely do need to be considered.
If I were, for example, to Tweet "Up the IRA!", I would expect to have my Twitter account closed. Furthermore, I'd take it on the chin rather than going on about evil liberal conspiracies, political correctness, the New World Order and Great Cthulhu, and say "Yeah. Fair cop, I crossed a line there!"
Now most of your list of offences relate to gender issues but is not possible that the posts in question were abusive rather than "wrong"? Let's face it, a lot of closet cases do get very rude when dealing with LGBT types and such subjects are always going to be a gathering point for trolls. I can't imagine that it's simply a case of people getting kicked off accidentally transposing a pro-noun or two. It would be interesting to see some examples.
I again, repeat, my slightly tongue-in-cheek comment at the start of this thread. We can safely ignore the notion that all loony-right thought is somehow barred from Twitter because Trump posts his brain-farts on there every day!
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PeejayAdams wrote: The edge-cases absolutely do need to be considered.
No, they seriously don't.
Using Twitter to recruit terrorists is NOT a free speech issue
Using Twitter to allow paedophiles to communicate with each other is NOTa free speech issue.
De-platforming someone for voicing their opinion that transgender men are not men (and vice versa) IS a free speech issue.
If you want to discuss free speech issues, then I'll gladly join in. Otherwise, count me out.
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If you seriously think that edge cases don't matter, never get a job as a software tester. The devil is ALWAYS in the detail.
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If you implement code to cater for edge cases before focussing attention on the key functionality, then don't get a job as a software developer.
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After years of building the iPhone primarily in China, Apple is preparing for a major expansion of iPhone manufacturing in India. India, Wisconsin?
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Intel was reportedly struggling to produce 5G chips in time for the 2020 iPhone. You know what they say, if at first you don't succeed, give up and try an entirely different business.
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Volkswagen will use Chinese software developers to help design a global autonomous vehicle architecture thanks to the prevalence of qualified programmers which carmakers are struggling to hire elsewhere If you can program a car to drive in China, it can drive anywhere.
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Volkswagen China’s passenger cars chief Stephan Woellenstein said: In a short period from now they will be able to do 15 to 20 million lines of programming code on an annual basis
Who the hell measures productivity or success by LOC? 
They can hire me and I'll give them roughly that amount a day 
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Sander Rossel wrote: I'll give them roughly that amount a day
Documented in Chinese? 
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That was my first reaction too. If SmogWagen is using such a pernicious anti-metric to gauge progress I expect the results to be about as safe as their emissions control systems were green.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
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Sander Rossel wrote: Who the hell measures productivity or success by LOC? 
IBM did. And it was a great success (for Microsoft).
Oh sanctissimi Wilhelmus, Theodorus, et Fredericus!
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and the emissions will be negative.
modified 20-Oct-19 21:02pm.
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