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Just read this[^] on Auntie.
Terrible news.
"I do not have to forgive my enemies, I have had them all shot." — Ramón Maria Narváez (1800-68).
"I don't need to shoot my enemies, I don't have any." - Me (2012).
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Insanity.
/ravi
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That is terrible. However, story aside...
Quote: scores of cars surrounding the area
That's the first time I've seen "scores" used in a news story (at least, with that usage). Usually, they'd go with "tens" or "dozens".
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Quote: Scores of officers at the scene carried out a full search of the site They used it twice.
The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill
America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde
Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin
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Thanks for settling the scores.
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I was just on a gun forum, and one of the guys there knows someone that has kids in that school who doesn't know yet if their kids are okay.
The sad part is that there is no foolproof method for keeping kids safe in schools, short of having every student and teacher remote-in from home, essentially turning the school into a massive data center. At that point, kids won't be able to learn social interaction skills *at all*, which is part of what makes schools so valuable.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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Or possibly implement gun control.
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Dalek Dave wrote:
Or possibly implement gun control. |
Kids get hacked to death in Chinese schools because they don't have guns. Look it up.
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There are many cases of children being hacked to death in China. Hacked, instead of shot, because guns are illegal. Now, should they outlaw knives, machetes, and axes as well?
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Nope, won't work.
They outlawed drugs, and you can get them easily. They outlawed driving under the influence, yet people can buy both cars and booze.
You can make all the laws you want, but the bad guys are going to keep breaking them. In this particular instance, a school is considered a "gun-free zone" (federal law). BY LAW, you cannot bring a gun into a school. He also could not legally carry a gun in Connecticut because he wasn't 21.
When people are intent on mayhem, "the law" is not the thing they worry about the most. "The law" is merely an instrument the government uses to put people in jail.
The problem with a mass shooting is that the perp is likely to take his own life AFTER he commits the crime. You can't arrest them at point, can you?
So, the solution isn't gun control. The solution isn't arming the teachers. The solution isn't trying to prevent guns from entering school premises. The best solution is remote decentralized teaching/learning. The kids are safer, but they don't learn other essential skills. Beyond that, this only addresses the schools. What about the malls, or community swimming pools, or the county fair? The knee-jerk reaction to put more control on guns is simply not plausible.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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security guard stations and full bag checks. One entry in and one entry out. just like my ex-place of employment.
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Slacker007 wrote: security guard stations and full bag checks. Have fun implementing that at every single school in the entire country...
The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill
America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde
Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin
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just a suggestion. I think it is going to be impossible to implement anything worth while at every school across the country.
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Homeland Security? They're being paid to keep people safe .
If your neighbours don't listen to The Ramones, turn it up real loud so they can.
“We didn't have a positive song until we wrote 'Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue!'” ― Dee Dee Ramone
"The Democrats want my guns and the Republicans want my porno mags and I ain't giving up either" - Joey Ramone
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Colin Mullikin wrote: Slacker007 wrote: security guard stations and full bag checks. Have fun implementing that at every single school in the entire country...
It's depressingly common at urban schools already; strangely enough they still have major problems with contraband inside; and in the case of a lunatic like this the guard at the door would just be the first one killed.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Dan Neely wrote: strangely enough they still have major problems with contraband inside; and in the case of a lunatic like this the guard at the door would just be the first one killed. So, pretty much you're saying it is a useless security measure...?
The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill
America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde
Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin
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If we're talking about a single guard stationed at the entrance yes. A roaming guard would be less vulnerable to a preemptive strike at the start of an attack; and multiple people at widely separated locations would make doing so impossible for a lone gunman. Hiring multiple guards for a very low probability event's improbable from a budgetary standpoint, and despite the desires of some on the right we're not going to emulate Israel's approach of deputizing a significant fraction of the faculty.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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I agree with pretty much everything that you just said.
A guy I work with brought up the deputizing of faculty, and I tried to explain to him why that would neither work nor ever happen.
The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill
America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde
Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin
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The shittiest of schools already have that.
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Easy - as the shooter walks up to the bag checker, he pulls a gun from the bag to be checked, and blows away the person doing the checking. He then continues into the school, unmolested.
Later, people will say, "I thought he was just another parent..."
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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I am in the UK - if I was going to go postal I wouldn't have a clue where to get hold of a gun. If I was in the USA I daresay I could get hold of a gun very easily.
Gun control is the only solution
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RugbyLeague wrote: Gun control is the only solution
No, it is not. What are you going to do with the person that WANTS to do this kind of killing? How do you stop the intent? Gun control is not the only answer.
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If you make access to guns extremely difficult it will be very difficult for somebody who just flips to get hold of one and use one.
You won't entirely prevent pre-meditated, planned, murder spress but it will minimise the number of nutters flipping and going bullet happy in public places.
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I have to disagree on the banning guns. Please Google search for school children in China being killed by psycho's. They do it without guns. They flipped out, too.
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