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charlieg wrote: No, it's not a joke, but I'm going to let the Lounge come up with posts at joke level...
You want people like me to make up a joke? I'm dumb as rocks.
charlieg wrote: wife or hubby has to go off to work. At what point do you hit the shower?
After about 3 weeks or so.
charlieg wrote: Question 2: in your family cell phone plan - can you track the location of SWMBO so you can clean up before it happens?
I don't know who or what this SWMBO is. You want me to track this SMWOB thing/person so that I can clean up before it happens? Something only needs to be cleaned up if it's dirty. Logic tells me that this SMWO8 thing is going to cause something to get dirty, and I need to clean it up... Well, I'll see what I can do.
charlieg wrote: Question 3... oh crap, she's on her way to the car....
This doesn't sound good. OK, when this unknown female arrives at the unspecified car's location, that's bad. Got it.
charlieg wrote: I might spin this into a survey.. or something, and send someone their selected beverage or item of choice. Raman is cheap to ship. 
This unspecified thing needs to be spun, then you want to put it into a survey? ...or something... OK, I can work with that. Someone will select a beverage, or an item of choice and it somehow gets sent to someone. Who's this Ramen guy? I could be wrong, but I think it might be illegal to ship people. Leave Ramen alone and focus on tracking MWSBO before the unspecified female gets to that car. It's going to cause a mess and I'm going to clean it up. OK, I'll get right on it. 
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Well, go and f*** yourself.
And to his mate who thought this must be default and non-changeable via an option, you can go to.
I know, it is not the first time I rant about this, but oh God does this cost me time.
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Can you not OpenOffice or something?
I want to cackle like a madman watching the pendulum swing back towards "uhhh, this stuff sucks and native apps will always be better".
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I am very open to alternatives, but in this very case it is at my workplace AND I reckon I enjoy the MSOffice suite.
Sharepoint is a big POS however.
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Their thinking seems to be led by 'be better than Google at the online office suite'. Just look at the current 'New Outlook', it is an online interface in a native app  . I guess they think that is where the majority will end up, online, with less and less users of the native apps 
BTW, if you can't open an office doc in the native app from within SharePoint then I think that that's an admin setting, not an MS imposed limitation. From the ellipsis (...) menu, the Open item should give you three options, Open in browser, Open in app, Open in immersive reader.
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M-Badger wrote: Just look at the current 'New Outlook', it is an online interface in a native app
Oh MY YES!!!
On a Mac it is hideous and flips to that abomination after every software update too.
I’ve given up trying to be calm. However, I am open to feeling slightly less agitated.
I’m begging you for the benefit of everyone, don’t be STUPID.
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I have a marketing company and I don't even understand what Microsoft is hoping to achieve (in the long term) with these changes. It's very ham-fisted.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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I just found this:
if ( ( _recStatus.OnlineState() == ONLINE ) || (_falseOnline == true) ) in some code. I didn't write it.
What. The. ![Elephant | [mastadon]](https://www.codeproject.com/script/Forums/Images/elephant.gif) .
... and yes, I know about The Weird and The Wonderful[^], which this is neither. This is motivation for homicide.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Ah, they miss the && (_trueOnline != false).
Or did you mean something else ?
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I need to borrow your CP account name for a while. I promise to give it right back, as soon as I'm finished.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Maybe the author wanted to write:
if ( ( _recStatus.OnlineState() == ONLINE ) || (_pretendOnline == true) ) ...just a thought.
However I have little patience for underscores at the beginning of variable names. Everyone should have got the memo that they are reserved for compiler use since 2003. Seems even Microsoft has heard about that.
Mircea
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Mircea Neacsu wrote: pretendOnline
This is pure gold. Fake it until you make it.
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My thoughts were more along the line of simulateOnline but everyone knows naming is the most difficult part of programming
Mircea
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This is the female version 
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Mircea Neacsu wrote: Maybe the author wanted to write:
A comment elsewhere in the code indirectly implies that's the intent.
Mircea Neacsu wrote: I have little patience for underscores at the beginning of variable names
We use this for private and protected values. It's been part of our naming convention since the late 1990's, predating the compiler reservation. FWIW, we have never had a conflict in all that time over several code bases that run to millions of lines.
Software Zen: delete this;
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I've never had to work with such large code bases and I certainly respect your internal conventions. However, a little devil inside me thinks that a tool converting _variable to variable_ shouldn't be all that bad 
Mircea
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Mircea Neacsu wrote: a tool converting _variable to variable_ shouldn't be all that bad
Unfortunately a majority of our code base is C++, and Visual Studio support for refactoring it is still error-prone even in VS2022. They still exceed the scope when renaming values.
Software Zen: delete this;
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grep
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Don't you mean grep_?
Jeremy Falcon
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Mircea Neacsu wrote: However, a little devil inside me thinks that a tool converting _variable to variable_ shouldn't be all that bad 
I may be dumb as rocks, but I know a good idea when I see it. If I ever make any global edits to my code, I use regular expressions to do so. Now would be a good time to save a backup. Then run the editing script. I learned that the hard way. The editing script almost always changes things that you don't intend to edit. I've encountered catastrophes doing this. I've written 25,000 lines of JavaScript code on a single web page. With that much code, any attempt at a global edit would likely result in a disaster.
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I upvoted this. While I don't think the original posts warrants jail time. I do think name dangling a variable isn't that big of a deal. Peeps that speak in such absolutes tend to lack experience, never lead or worked in a team successfully, etc. - in my experience.
Yes, today's tools make it a lot less necessary, but imagine a C/C++ application where you intend for it to be portable and have no guarantee any code viewer/editor/IDE will have introspection/intellisense.
If it's something like VS only, Windows specific C++, never to be ported type app, I could see not doing it. Just depends on context. Although, I'd argue that this day and age writing Windows only C++ code is selling the app short.
Jeremy Falcon
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Mircea Neacsu wrote: Maybe the author wanted to write:
That's how I read it, as in there's a way to fake like being online in the application. Probably could've used a non boolean logic type variable name though, but not worth homicide. 
Jeremy Falcon
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Gary Wheeler wrote: if ( ( _recStatus.OnlineState() == ONLINE ) || (_falseOnline == true) )
If online or offline, then return true... 
Gary Wheeler wrote: This is motivation for homicide.
Grab your shovels, your pick axes, and your pitchforks. This egregious violation of logic will not be tolerated. 
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Welcome, God Of Second Guessing One's Self.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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