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I want y'all's opinion on this...
I just checked out a new article here[^], but I can't help but feel I was totally plagiarized from one[^] I wrote years ago. The intro seesm a bit too much like my intro. The style of teaching and math is the same.
What you guys think? I'm thinking ol' homeboy done went took my concepts and passed them off as his own.
Jeremy Falcon
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You could just report it as such and get the hamsters to figure it out. Certainly covers similar ground.
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R. Giskard Reventlov wrote: Certainly covers similar ground.
Well, it's the intro that tipped me off. Just read both intros and well, you get the idea...
Jeremy Falcon
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Got to be honest, not really seeing it. Sorry.
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What specifically seems too much like your? The idea of talking about hexadecimal and octal? I don't see much in similarity other than what is common knowledge in Computer Science studies for going over how to do number system conversions.
Yours is better in my opinion.
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The main thing that seemed a bit too much like mine was the intros. The rest can be argued "common knowledge", but the intros make me thing it was a "hmm this looks cool let me rewrite it."
Jeremy Falcon
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I don't see any specific similarity other than both articles cover similar territory.
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Read the intros.
Jeremy Falcon
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I did. And as others have stated, their is no specific evidence of plagiarism.
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I read both intros: I do not experience them as similar; and, imho, they are both rather silly.
«I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.
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BillWoodruff wrote: they are both rather silly.
Really, but many people - even many users on CP, need such a intro otherwise they can't get hold of what's talking about.
Even in our field there are people arguing that math is useless 
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Have to agree with the other comments. I think he deserves the benefit of the doubt.
What we got here is a failure to communicate
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as someone occasionally working in the field of IP Copyright Infringement, I'd have to suggest that's its the same domain but there's not enough there to warrant hanging suggest plagiarism
I did find this from your article >> Quote: Why have you been counting in decimal your whole life?
funny - you do pre-suppose this article is for those born after decimal currency was introduced - In Australia, 1966 and In NZ (Where I was born) 1967 * ...
(*ok, I'll fess up - I was 2 when NZ went to decimal currency  , but old-timers still remember pre-decimilisation)
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1971 for us Brits - 1 was 13 at the time. This meant I was able to advise youngsters on how to convert old money to decimal when converting data about fines held on Scotland Yard's criminal records systems - We had to convert old fines held in guineas, pounds, shillings and pence (even farthings!) into their decimal equivalent.
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Wasn't there an App for that?
I don't speak Idiot - please talk slowly and clearly
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Garth J Lancaster wrote: funny - you do pre-suppose this article is for those born after decimal currency was introduced - In Australia, 1966 and In NZ (Where I was born) 1967 * ...
You figured me out! I'm so anti pre-1966. I didn't want to say it out-right though, but it's time you should know.
Jeremy Falcon
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: The style of teaching and math is the same.
Perhaps, you both were taught by the same Professor. Or both of your Professors' Professor was the same person, or so on ...
Who was the first person in history who ever wrote about this topic?
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I wasn't taught by anyone how to show it like that. I mean sure someone else could think of it too, but I digress.
Jeremy Falcon
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Plagiarism is usually demonstrated by entire tracts of text being lifted.
I couldn't see any similarity between the introductions other than them covering the same general area.
Having said this it's always best to check with others when you have a suspicion of plagiarism and I think you have done the right thing by checking out your concerns.
As as aside someone lifted the entire text from an article I wrote a few years back - it was word for word exactly the same and they claimed the work as their own(on another site) - the good people at CP descended on this plagiarist and the article was removed within hours.
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GuyThiebaut wrote: Plagiarism is usually demonstrated by entire tracts of text being lifted.
Gotcha
GuyThiebaut wrote: Having said this it's always best to check with others when you have a suspicion of plagiarism and I think you have done the right thing by checking out your concerns.
Well, I operate a bit differently. If I think it I usually say it. Pretty much an open book in that regards.
GuyThiebaut wrote: As as aside someone lifted the entire text from an article I wrote a few years back - it was word for word exactly the same and they claimed the work as their own(on another site) - the good people at CP descended on this plagiarist and the article was removed within hours.
Good to know.
Jeremy Falcon
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Well i guess that's the problem of writing about a very easy and common knowledge based subject. I can't specifically spot any plagiarism within the intros. Then, teaching the same way is not considered as plagiarism, i mean dude, what would all teachers world wide do?
He deserves the honor for his writing, although not for the maths and stuff behind it as he is just repeating what everybody should know ^^
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HobbyProggy wrote: He deserves the honor for his writing, although not for the maths and stuff behind it as he is just repeating what everybody should know ^^
As an aside, I didn't down vote the article or anything like that. I just simply asked about it in the lounge.
Jeremy Falcon
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I read them both, especially the intros as you suggested, and cannot see plagiarism.
Some things are so basic and so misunderstood from the lowly masses that teaching methods tend to become similar - I used almost the same words of both the introductions to teach the concept to my classmates years ago, but I don't really think that both of you microphoned my conversations and translated them from Italian just to post an article on CP
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I don't see it so much in the article you linked, but this[^] however?
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DAAAAAAAAAMMMNN! I feel so used. So dirty. So copied. Good catch.
Jeremy Falcon
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