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The closing arguments in the Pistorius trial are only being delivered now, is it just me or did that trial go on for bloody ages? Is that a South African thing?
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Don't you remember the OJ trial? That went on for ages as well - or at least it seemed to. How long would it take in a country that didn't beleive in "swift" justice? 
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Actually it's been quicker than a lot of cases because it's a high profile case. Other cases can drag on for years, being postponed at various stages, but this one got a lot of attention so it moved along quicker.
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The entire legal system has been built/designed by lawyers to create as many billable hours as possible. They basically wrote themselves a lucrative career. The entire system is utter nonsense and lawyers should be strung up on lampposts as a warning to others who would attempt to rob the down trodden and unfortunate in this manner.
I'm sorry to say this but it really is time for Western Civilization to disappear.
It had a good run.
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be careful what you wish, some cultures will string you up from said lamppost for believing in a different invisible sky pixie (or even just a different flavour of the right sky pixie)
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start
Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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Bergholt Stuttley Johnson wrote: be careful what you wish, some cultures will string you up from said lamppost for believing in a different invisible sky pixie (or even just a different flavour of the right sky pixie)
I don't think making the legal system simple, efficient, and straightforward is the same thing as frontier justice. Those other cultures aren't stringing people up because they lack lawyers - they're stringing people up because they're idiots.
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the problems with simple laws is that they only protect the clever
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start
Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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And the problem with clever laws is that they only protect the rich (as Bernie Ecclestone is showing)
You looking for sympathy?
You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric
(Page 1788, if it helps)
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not sure I agree as the Judge actually said that their was no case to answer, it actually looks as if Berni was a fool to offer the payment as the case was collapsing
a lots of the complexity of laws is to try to make them fair (unfortunately this plays into the hands of the lawyers)
if you look at the times of simple laws it was often a time where the rich used those laws to legally steal from the poor
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start
Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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Bergholt Stuttley Johnson wrote: the problems with simple laws is that they only protect the clever
Care to post an example?
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care to post an example of a simple law that cannot be circumvented?
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start
Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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Bergholt Stuttley Johnson wrote: care to post an example of a simple law that cannot be circumvented?
Can I post a simple example of a law that is well understood by everyone that reads it?
Yes.
Can I post a simple example of a law that a lawyer is incapable of twisting into an irrational, society-destroying mess of legalize, complexity, and horror?
No.
That doesn't mean the law is the problem.
Oh, BTW, I did notice that you dodged my question.
You must be a lawyer of some sort - hoping to push the conversation into a gray/poorly defined/incomprehensible area so that you can work your evil. I'll have to drop out of this conversation because you'll have me confessing to the Kennedy assassination before it's through.
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You killed Kennedy? 
After all these year, and you finally admit it!
You looking for sympathy?
You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric
(Page 1788, if it helps)
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We aren't there yet.
Lawyers in the USA are still trying to define the word 'is'. They've a 3,500 page outline and are now working on filling in the actual texts of the various sections. We've a team of 400+ lawyers working on it - ever since the Clinton scandal. I think they're making great progress.
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the problem is not a law that everyone understands but that the law has to prevent someone sidestepping it,
take murder, fairly basic you would think, but what about if the person is forced to murder someone? or is mentally ill or a child? what if you pay someone to murder someone else? etc etc etc
see the problem?
or theft, when are the items yours? what actually defines theft? if I buy something from you but don't pay ALL the agreed amount is that theft? if you take the item back are you committing theft?
I notice you too sidestepped the question
You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start
Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.
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To quote Stephen Fry:
What do lawyers and sperm have in common?
One in fifty-million has a chance at becoming a human being.
You looking for sympathy?
You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric
(Page 1788, if it helps)
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Tell us how you really feel.
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Corporal Agarn wrote: Tell us how you really feel.
Okay.
I feel if we immediately burned all lawyers at the stake right now, in one bloodless revolution (1), that Western Civilization would probably last another 200 years. If we don't take this action Western Civilization will be stomped out by more advanced civilizations - like those in North Korea, Iran, or Syria - you know, places where no matter how backwards they otherwise are they've the decency to occasionally identify forked tongued devils and murder them on the spot.
I cleaned that up a little bit because I don't care to offend anyone.
NOTES:
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1: Lawyers are actually a type of bloodless parasite.
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Actually, I think we're still waiting for it...
"What do I think of Western civilization? I think it would be a very good idea."
Mahatma Gandhi
"If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough."
Alan Kay.
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Rough Day: I hit the stairwell to drop down to the 2nd floor so I could get some ice water but Scott pulled me aside to complain about his shoes. Turns out he cannot find shoes online that match his purple polo. I suggested he start his own shoe company. Long story short, I ended up walking down to the 1st floor which means I had to go up a flight of stairs or ride the elevator with the gabby girls from accounting - a classic no-win situation that makes me doubt the existence of God.
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Will the brutality of shoe fetishists never end ? 
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Thank you for understanding.
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MehGerbil wrote: girls from accounting
As opposed to the slovenly guys in the dev department? Sorry, I have to go with the girls on this one.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
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The accounting girls ride the elevator 'Up' whereas the developers ride the elevator 'Down' into the basement where they belong.
I was going 'Up'.
But yes, if I had a choice I would go with the developers because I can hold my breath while the unwashed scraggly haired dude in the BBQ stained T-Shirt tells me about his trip to Comic-Con. He won't require a response and likely doesn't even know I'm there; however, the gals from accounting ask questions like "How is the weather?" and "Are you doing anything this weekend?" to which I reply, "If it rains this weekend it means I have to bury the bodies in my basement but if it is sunny I'll put 'em outside".
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 And with that smooth line, the girls ripped their clothes off and ravaged you I bet. Oddly enough, speaking of burying bodies, I grew up not far from this[^] thing.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
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