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Is there anywhere on TV where you can watch the news, without it being:
- patronising
- repetitive
- negative
- more interested in their own pet subjects/message
- more opinionated than factual
- only interested in stirring up a sh*t storm
- only interested in trying to catch out the interviewees - even if it means going completely off topic
You would hope that our publicly funded broadcaster, the BBC, might manage it. But nope! They tick all of the above boxes. I switched over to ITV this morning and, I (am ashamed to admit) actually found Piers Morgan more reasonable and palatable than the BBC. I don't think I've been brain-washed overnight into suddenly liking one of the most hated men on TV. More likely is that everyone else has descended to his level - but, as he's had more practice at that level, he's a lot better at it.
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What TV is?
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
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That's what TV News is there for, isn't it?*
* To be biased, patronising, repetitive, negative, more interested in their own pet subjects/message, more opinionated than factual, only interested in stirring up a sh*t storm, only interested in trying to catch out the interviewees - even if it means going completely off topic
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"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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The best news show ever in the UK, (Not the nine o'clock news) also ticked all boxes
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
Never stop dreaming - Freddie Kruger
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Did you ever watch Drop The Dead Donkey?
Topical news comedy set in a TV newsroom, it's up on YouTube IIRC.
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"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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Nope, probably never arrived over here, I'll have a check tonight
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
Never stop dreaming - Freddie Kruger
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Watch the Dutch NOS journal
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I don't know how it is on your side of the pond, but in the states, 90% of the media (watch, listen, read) is controlled by just six companies. Therefore, you only get what they want you to get, or you can just ignore them all and form your own opinion.
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles
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Your internet searches are driven by google, the advertisement you get is driven by google, the products you buy online are pre-chosen by amazon, etc... All your life choices are premade by about 4 or 5 companies in the world - Why should it be any different for your news ?
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Depressingly, you guys have confirmed my worst fears: There's no such thing as proper news on TV.
I also forgot to mention: reporters, (now usually called "correspondents" or "editors"), standing outside 10 Downing Street/The Whitehouse/a hospital/an airport or on a motorway bridge, for absolutely no good reason!
Oh, and the 'Breaking News' banner telling us about something that happened yesterday! Ignore the 'Breaking' bit, some of it doesn't even qualify as 'News'!
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Years ago you could buy a newspaper which would at least contain a nice pair of [REDACTED].
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Their mission has nothing to do with the news. It has to do with keeping you tuned so as to watch the commercials. Note the highly trained meteorologists.
Don't bother with all that. Just ask Siri.
If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
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I mostly watch CNN for news and switch to Fox (fair and balanced) occasionally for entertainment/laughs.
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
"Hope is contagious"
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on TV nope. Unfortunately they always interject there own opinion. Thru facial expressions if nothing else.
I have been trying to stay with the written word lately and researching how actual factual the organization is before going to their site. In the US only one so far is apnews but slightly left leaning. perhaps wallstreet journal though they do lean slightly right. but only those so far.
To err is human to really mess up you need a computer
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All news sources are biased one way or the other, especially if they have editorials.
Vary your news sources, locally, national and international.
There are sources like the AP or Reuter that are less biased.
I'd rather be phishing!
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They (used to) "loop" most (late night) radio broadcasts; this is just progress; no human intervention news.
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it.
― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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The news is what you make of it, or more correctly, what they make of it.
I learned eons ago, before the internet replaced it, by listening via SWL (Short Wave Listening). You can hear each country's version of the news. You can also hear it keep changing, day by day. For example, when Soviet Union shot down that Korean Air Lines Flight 007, at first the various Soviet stations denied having anything to do with it. In just over a week, inch by inch, they built a case as to why it was done and they did it and it was perfectly justified. And Radio Tirana, what a bunch of psychos. Voice of America; BBC, Radio Canada, &etc.
These days, the best thing to listen to on SW is the Time Signal from Fort Collins, Colorado. The remainder are right-wing-religious-fanatatics (who need your donation to support their good works). The odd conspiracy theorists, too, and plenty of the two having cross-bred
I do much the same, now, with TV (& streaming TV) and internet news. A mixture from a bunch of sources and try to deduce some sort of truth out of it. Interestingly, the same news in different languages is often quite un-same. For example, EuroNews (streaming): the English language version is always way behind, missing many items and has infomercials in the guise of news from places like the Emirates. On the other hand, the German version is much more up-to-date, has many more items and none of those infomercials. Also, unlike the English version, they rarely have items that I think were "blacked out" (won't load) that are available in German and other languages.
Sticking with EuroNews, English version - it's amazingly rare that they'd have any news about Israel that isn't negative - or they just skip it. To balance this, I have the obviously pro-Israeli Algemeiner.com[^]. Where else would you learn that they're arranging to have 2000 more Falasha (Black Ethiopian Jews) brought to the country. Yet - that same news vehicle will have articles about the discrimination that occurs because of the extreme cultural differences. They don't sh*t vanilla ice cream and aren't afraid to admit it. Compared them to The NY Times[^] and wonder how you can trust anything they print? Back to your original premise, whose idea of what you should know and how you should know it are you going to get?
So, in conclusion, I suggest you ask me.
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The thing that really frustrates me with the BBC News (esp. the Breakfast show) is the long, rambling, incoherent questions that the interviewers ask which end up not having a point that the interviewee can answer, which is just as well as the interviewers have taken so much time asking whatever they are trying to ask that there is no time left for a response.
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Not TV, but I've been feeding my news appetite with the No Agenda podcast for years.
They've long figured out what you've been observing, and their twice-weekly podcast covers how news organizations twist everything to fit their agenda, in some rather entertaining format. Each "episode" is nearly 3 hours long, so it's great if you have a long commute or the like. I find it to be a great way to remain informed, and cut through the BS.
They've been accused these days of being pro-Trump, but all they're doing in reality is pointing out how news outlets are biased against him, and never miss any occasion to make him look bad and leave out context to make things appear worse than reality.
It takes some getting used to, as there's a lot of insider jokes building up on what they might've discussed on previous episodes, and the soundboard thing may be a little much to get used to...but I find the whole thing to be quite interesting.
They have no advertisers, as they (rightfully) point out that having any sponsor would mean there's subject matters they could never cover, and it's all supported through listener donations. A while ago some group of butt-hurt people tried to get them shut down by going after their advertisers. They quickly found out there was nobody they could complain to.
The show's hosted by Adam Curry (of MTV fame back in the 80s, and self-proclaimed creator of the podcast), and John C. Dvorak (a name who many here might recognize as he wrote for PC Mag for years). The ying and the yang, really, and they complement each other very well.
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Right in the middle of the spaces in the treble stave is a laughable / ludicrous drama. (5)
modified 12-Oct-20 4:10am.
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FARCE
R in FACE - notes of treble stave
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Well done - you're up tomorrow (Again).
Your explanation was correct, but as I'd prepared this little ASCII art, I'm still adding it ...
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.+-----/-|------------------------------------F-----
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||----/|----------------------------------D---------
|| / | C
||--/--|------------------------------B-------------
|| | ,-+-. A
||-|-|-|--|-----------------------G-----------------
|| \__|__/ F
'+-----|---------------------E----------------------
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spaces in the treble staff = F A C E (as per diagram above)
Right = R
Right in the middle of the spaces in the treble staff = F A R C E
laughable / ludicrous drama = FARCE
Trivia fact of the day: Ludicrous derives from Latin 'ludicrus' probably from 'ludicrum' which means stage-play
modified 12-Oct-20 5:05am.
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I would have tried to explain more - I'm not musically talented* - but I was on my phone while waiting for Herself to have bloods taken.
* cannot carry a tune in a bucket; people start to run away screaming when I sing.
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"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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