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Yes, used an APC for years. Just replaced the battery and - the best bit - they have a recycling system for old batteries, so there is a carton out waiting for the courier.
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Good UPSs don't fail with sparks that could start a fire. I've used a number of them over the years (APC, Belkin), and the only thing that seems to fail are the batteries, which wear out and need replacing from time to time.
As for surge protectors, there are two kinds, the MOS ones, where the MOS part takes the hit, burning it out a little more each time, and series mode ones, which use a large inductor and don't wear out (they're also hard to find, heavy as snot, and expensive).
BTW, a lot of shills copy their reviews onto many sites, so just because you see it on multiple sites, doesn't mean it isn't from a shill, nor even that it's true. It's not called the 'net of a million lies' for nothing
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Great info. Thanks for your input. Also, i'm reading that wikipedia entry too.
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Hey, my local library has the ebook copy of the Vernor Vinge book available and I just checked it out. Very cool to find good new reading material. Thanks again.
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Vinge's works are some of my favorites, with that series in particular being some of my favorites among his work. That particular series is really interesting for the aliens.. which are really alien.. but not.
We're almost to the hexapodia moment.
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FYI - I read through the (long) prologue of Vinge's Fire Upon the Deep and I also completed chapter 1.
The prologue was tough because you can't tell what or who is the viewpoint character.
I'm still guessing, but I'm guessing it is an AI from the way it was worded. That really was some tough reading, but interesting too.
Now with chapter 1 we get the human viewpoint and that makes it a lot better. Chapter 1 was really good.
I think now that I got past the tough prologue this is going to be an interesting story.
If nothing else it is quite mysterious.
Thanks again for the recommendation.
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I have APC units all over my house, we get a lot of thunderstorms in Louisiana and have never had a problem or moments worry. I had a couple of units' batteries requiring replacement, but a local battery shop handles all of my needs.
Try not to overload them by using up every sing slot, and pay attention to the VA rating relative to the things you are plugging in.
Sparkless for years now.
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Great info. Thanks for your input. I really appreciate the lounge here providing all this great feedback. I feel a lot better about buying one now. Although I think I am going to buy from a local store instead of internet so I hopefully escape any knock-offs.
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Advice I was given about UPS (by someone who worked for a UPS manufacturer --- I think APC, but I'm not sure).
Never plug a surge suppresser into a UPS. UPSes have to convert DC to AC. The easiest way to do that is to create a stair-step wave instead of a proper sine wave. Surge suppressors see that as thousands of tiny surges per second that need to be suppressed. This could lead to overheating/sparks/fires. (Note, I was told this about 20 years ago, so UPSes and/or surge suppressors may have found a solution to this)
Truth,
James
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That is really fantastic information. Glad to know that. Thanks so much for taking the time to let me know.
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I can spend a 100 hours or more working on some code, and it takes less than 2 minutes to demo it to the customer.
I suppose many things are like that. Imagine the thousands and thousands of hours put into the design, manufacturing, testing, and assembly of a rocket. What does the customer see? Ooh, that was a cool launch, and look, 5 minutes later the booster landed on a barge at sea, with big rolling waves no less!
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Yeah, most things in life are like that. Sprinters train for years and their "work" is done in 10 seconds.
Cheers,
विक्रम
"We have already been through this, I am not going to repeat myself." - fat_boy, in a global warming thread
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If you can keep your head while those about you are losing theirs, perhaps you don't understand the situation.
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Everything is like that!
I just had Amazon deliver a new mini-food processor (A Kenwood CH180, replacing ... another CH180 that has plastic fatigue after 20+ years) and ... it's at least five plastic mouldings (that's five injection moulding tool pairs and each of them is a load of work to make, I've paid for a few in my time) plus assembly, design, prototyping, label design and print, box design and print, the purchasing and logistics of all of those and the components, marketing, shop placement, credit card processing, packing, shipping, ... a whole load of things went into getting a small box to me.
And I unpacked it, plugged in in the kitchen and pushed the button to make sure it worked. Two minutes.
Now I might not touch it for a week, I dunno when I'll need it.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Why didn't you print them yourself rather than buying them?
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My 3D CAD skills are nowhere near that level!
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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And 2 seconds for the demo to end in a BSoD.
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It's even worse when you spend hours coding something, and everything works when you test it, and then the customer breaks it in 5 seconds flat because he does something stupid that he's not supposed to do...
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant Anonymous
- The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine Winston Churchill, 1944
- Never argue with a fool. Onlookers may not be able to tell the difference. Mark Twain
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I had something that worked flawlessly for me, and pass my tests for two weeks before taking it to COMDEX where it promptly crashed in front of fortunately just one person at the time. Had to take it back to the hotel room and try to hotfix it. I put a bandaid on it that also disabled a feature to get it working.
The fault was mine. Early days of professional programming for me, and I tried to do too much with not enough time.
Real programmers use butterflies
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Worst perhaps is what I've been saying throughout my entire career, and that is we, as developers, "aren't building cathedrals". What I mean by this is that most of us can spend years on some software product, and no matter how great it might be, software rarely has a shelf life of more than a few years. After a decade or two, it's like the software never existed. Cathedrals, on the other hand, are still standing after hundreds of years. Mind you, nobody might know the names of those who worked on it, but the monument still stands after centuries.
I've never been in it to "leave my mark", and I'm okay with that. But anyone in this industry who wants to make the history books will be severely disappointed.
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It depends what you're working on. Probably the most useful things I did was to develop two application frameworks. One of them is still executing code over 20 years later, and the other (as far as I know) is still executing code over 35 years later. Applications are still being developed on the first one, but I'd be surprised if that was still the case with the second one.
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I'd have said it depends on how badly you screw up, and how publicly as well. In my case, no history books, because nothing I do working for a market research company is going to have any lasting effect on anyone or anything, and I like it that way.
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I suppose there's also the aspect of visibility. Only those who develop against your app framework know anything about it. I'm betting this is entirely meaningless to the end users.
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It's certainly invisible to end users.
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