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And they have more than enough detail on me that a few minor documents are not going to make a difference.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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But don't you have to pay for Google tools too?
My real need is for an Outlook replacement for the Mac, email and calendar working off of Microsoft Exchange Online. Using Office 2011 today but it has quirks in the current macOS High Sierra and Mojave.
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riclf wrote: But don't you have to pay for Google tools too
Only with the ownership of my data, I only use mail, sheets and doc as my requirements are very minimal and AFAIK there is no monetary cost to using them.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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There has been no changes to office that I care for for fifteen years. I'd definitely buy.
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365 as it has monthly payment subscription plans and it is mobile, files can be saved locally or in Valhalla.
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Sure it is; it's Valhalla, for Viking's sake!
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Notepad++ saved to text file; always readable.
You asked.
Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.
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I use Notepad++, but paid for and use UltraEdit for any file work. Some features just work better.
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Jim_Snyder wrote: use UltraEdit
I looked at UltraEdit, and wow does it have a ton of features. Almost looks like its feature overkill.
Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.
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Some of the files I work with are streams, and I can use a macro in UltraEdit to separate a .csv into X12 fields or database entries. The column mode is nice as I usually end up reformatting SQL from entry level developers in order to be able to read their code.
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Jim_Snyder wrote: The column mode is nice as I usually end up reformatting SQL from entry level developers in order to be able to read their code.
Oh, now that's a nice feature! You should see the crap I get sent to me. Sigh..
Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.
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None. When I bought laptop a little over year ago, the store gave me an option. I either get free headphone or Office Home edition. I took Office.
I would probably opt for one time payment though if I have to. Plus, I would try and buy an older version if I can as I do not really have that intensive Office usage.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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Home Edition? What do you use in the Office though?
-= Reelix =-
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Office as in workplace? Office365 or 2013 or 2010 depending on which computer/VM I am working on.
At home this one - I rarely use it though.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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Got this dilemma at the moment, was intended on buying outright, but the cost of buying is six years 365, and in six years time and I still going to be using it? Probably not so I'm edging toward 365. Worse case it'll all come out in the wash.
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Joan, have you looked at what is included in the Office 365 subscription?
If you need a single license for Office and none of the extended features, Office 2019 is probably a better choice. You pay more up front ($250 USD) but can be used for years. Unless Microsoft comes up with some type of immensely useful new feature, there's probably no real need to upgrade again until 2019 goes out of support in 7 years.
However, the 365 Home version includes licenses for 5 people on PC/Mac, phone, and tablet. Plus it includes 1 TB of OneDrive space/person + Skype. If you need multiple licenses, it's the clear winner.
If you buy any extended online storage (DropBox premium, etc) then 365 is also the winner, as the prices for storage are roughly the same cost as 365 ... and it includes MS Office.
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Word 97 - still works for me - I have a lot of old documents written using Word 6.0 (DOS) or Word for Windows, works, no problem, no ribbon, all the hot keys stay where I put them.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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I prefer Office 20?? for personal use but have Office 365 because the monthly pricing, a family licensing option and integration with my server, laptop and phone makes life easier. Biggest factor is the price. Can you image the cost for yourself, wife and kids if you were using Office 2019 on all the devices at home not to mention software updates.
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I use the Chinese WPS Office Suite...
It is far superior to Libre Office and it mimics Microsoft Office beautifully. And it is far more affordable...
Steve Naidamast
Sr. Software Engineer
Black Falcon Software, Inc.
blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com
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I use 365 Home at home. Five users for $100/year means $20/user/year. How many years at $20/year would it take to pay off a 2019 license?
Keep in mind, I've always been anti-subscription because of not wanting my software to expire. I just couldn't make that argument with the 365 Home pricing. The price was too reasonable. The Adobe stuff, on the other hand, is a totally unreasonable subscription.
I actually go looking for an Office/365 "gift card" around Christmastime every year when they go on sale for $80. That brings it down to $16/user/year.
I haven't analyzed the business/enterprise/education offerings. All I know when it comes to those is that Microsoft is having a whole lot of success with them. So presumably other business people have done their math and decided its the way to go.
Apart from the reliable revenue stream, there is another reason for Microsoft to prefer users be on 365. Fewer customer support headaches involving users who have old, but still supported, versions of Office. Every software developers will readily acknowledge they hate getting bogged down supporting old versions of software.
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Office 2019. I prefer one payment only and to deal with my own machine.
I've been happily using Softmaker Free Office for a long time already, but I need to work with some macros and Power BI next year.
One foot here, the other one in Wonderland
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The Office 365 subscription is so cheap and comes with so many nice features that I honestly don't even know how this is a debate anymore TBH.
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My business has Office 365. We have 7 people, and having OneDrive and SharePoint Online free us from having to store anything work-related on the laptops. I use my Surface when going with customers, so it's a bliss just click and show the presentation from SharePoint Online. We even share sites with customers, who not necessarily have O365, and they can download the project files, and upload their own. Skype for business gets the job done on the videoconference front, all our OneNotes are stored and shared through SharePoint, and we even use Planner for some projects that need more of a loose control (otherwise, we use Project). Half of our operation is in O365, the other half is in Visual Studio Online.
So, having Office to update every year or so is really an added bonus for us, not the main reason we pay for O365.
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