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I thought training was conducted by the business team, etc. I also thought you were a developer. So, if you are a developer, then why are you part of the training?
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Slacker007 wrote: o, if you are a developer, then why are you part of the training? Probably someone wanted it done right?
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I know plenty of developers that should not be allowed anywhere near the word training, let alone, helping out with it.
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I know a lot of "business team" (i.e. Salesmen) who shouldn't be allowed near the customers, much less try and teach them anything.
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We had one - Clive, the "international Sales Manager" - who started complaining that the mains leads we fitted were too short; he had to work under the desk next to the plug. As Technical Manager, I investigated - production were rightly fitting at least 2m leads, so I check his: about 30cm. Strange. Got a new one fitted, and six months later he's moaning again.
Turns out every time he goes abroad, the plug is wrong for the mains supply, so he chops the cable, fits a local plug, and can't understand why the lead is getting so short ...
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Well if you work on a project being the only member and playing 6 persons you are also the poor guy that has to explain how your software works
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Slacker007 wrote: So, if you are a developer, then why are you part of the training? My last job was with a small company and the developers did support, training, business analysis with the customer, sales demos, and some development.
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Welcome to the club
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He probably is in the same unfortunate position as a lot of us. I'm officially a developer but I'm also the BA, PM, architect, trainer, technical writer, BRM, and provide tech support.
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Not to forget the scapegoat for everything that goes wrong and nobody wants to admit.
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His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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That too. Or the thing that went wrong which everyone knows who is responsible for but we're on a team so you can't "throw anyone under the bus."
Doing that makes us all look bad for not getting rid of someone who can't do their job. So instead just let the customer assume you're the idiot.
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Slacker007 wrote: if you are a developer, then why are you part of the training?
I've been doing frontline user support/training for the last 12 years. imho, getting to know your users will make you a better developer.
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Interesting, I have never had to meet my users in over 16 years of software development. I have always met with the PMs, BAs, etc., but not actual users.
I guess this would not be true if you are self-employed, etc, or not an actual software developer but IT support, perhaps, I don't know.
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Basically self-employed working from home for the last 12 years. I suppose I may fall into the DevOps category, but my primary role is development.
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Better to make the Gui intuitive. Ofcourse if you make it so any idiot can use it, All of the users will be idiots.
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HobbyProggy wrote: that shift your training, then shift it again, then shift it again Not only training but meetings in general! I've got one of those tomorrow, it was originally scheduled for January 9th.
Then another next Wednesday, which was originally supposed to be sometime mid-2016. Yeah, coming up on a year and a half of delays. Several of those delays were the end-user's fault thinking they didn't need it anymore, usually a few days before the planned meeting. Then after realizing their mistake, rescheduling for a month or two out.
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Aye, i know that.
Some weeks i can't breathe because of meetings, then you do their wishes and ask for a test by them.
8 weeks pass and you recieve a mail, "didn't work, please fix and add this and that also, and i invited you for a meeting"....
You know how times passes. Repeat the 2 to 3 line btw
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HobbyProggy wrote: you do their wishes and ask for a test by them Reminds me of my all-time "favorite" user interaction involving UAT, paraphrased slightly.
Me: So here is the link to the new version for testing. I've checked it to make sure there aren't any errors, but you are the expert and might use the system a bit differently than I do. You will need to check and make sure everything works to your expectations, then send me your approval and we'll get deployment to production schedule.
User: Okay, let me know when that is complete so we can start using the new version.
Me: Ummm, I need you to test and then approve that everything works. Just do what you normally would but do it in this test environment. At least once or twice for each of the functions you perform using the product. Let me know if you find any problems or strange behavior.
User: Okay, just let me know when the testing is done.
Me: Sure, I'll do that.
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Exactly
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...No, not by Griff. However, I found it slightly amusing:
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Johnny J. wrote: slightly
I totally agree.
... such stuff as dreams are made on
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Who is that guy? I must not get the reference because it is not even slightly amusing to me. But I'm glad it made you chuckle. Chuckling is an important part of life.
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I don't know who he is either. That's not the important part.
It's the use of "It", not in the Stephen King clown sense, but the "IT"-department sense. The ultra bored support technician and the standard "Have you tried turning it off and on again"...
So maybe it's not the greatest joke on Earth...
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OK, that makes more sense. I agree now, slightly amusing.
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