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Reflecting upon the vast body of your postings you've undertaken, how long will you carrion with this nonsense?
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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Quite a coincidence with all the talk about skills in programming (and the lack tehereof), but I just got THIS[^] on Facebook (in an entirely different connection).
I have never heard of Dunning-Kruger and the concept of "illusory superiority" before, but it makes perfect sense, and it certainly explains some of the things we have discussed below...
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant Anonymous
- The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine Winston Churchill, 1944
- I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy. Me, all the time
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Oh yes.. The Peanuts crew knew all about this (see my sig)
Not to mention old Will:
The fool doth think he is wise, but the wise man knows himself to be a fool
"I'm never quite so stupid as when I'm being smart." - Linus van Pelt.
"If you were as smart as you think you are, you wouldn't think you were so smart!" - Charlie Brown.
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"Know" nothing, as "no nothing" would be somewhat different.
I'd like to point out the obvious that the chart is not just a generalization, but the effect is also visible when growing up.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Yeah. Dunning and Kruger were convinced that they were experts.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Well, they were, they spend a whole hour drawing the graph...
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant Anonymous
- The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine Winston Churchill, 1944
- I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy. Me, all the time
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It's because he's a facebook user -- anything even remotely intelligent takes a long time to soak in.
It's in the facebook terms and conditions.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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Johnny J. wrote: but I just got THIS[^] on Facebook (in an entirely different connection).
We travel in the same circles, I'm thinking.
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To add on to Griff's earlier thread...
It is my opinion that many, many people become infatuated with the "idea" of software development and all that goes with it (fame and fortune ) , but it has been my experience that these people don't last more than a couple years, at best - most of them being under the age of 30, and most of those, right out of University/College.
We have had to alter/re-work our hiring process, so I have been told, to help filter these wanna-be sh*t heads developers out of our resume pool. Needless to say, it is a work in progress.
Hence, the copy paste, and why does it not work for me, mentality. I am not worried in the slightest that my profession has lost its meaning or value, when I see such potatoes around me. In fact, it only makes us more marketable and sought after.
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Well said, actually!
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant Anonymous
- The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine Winston Churchill, 1944
- I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy. Me, all the time
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I don't disagree but I also don't think this is a problem exclusive to software engineering. Pretty sure it's true in many (most?) fields.
That's what I do. I drink, and I know things. ~ Tyrion Lannister
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I do know that here in Sweden it's almost impossible to go to a restaurant and expect to get good service anymore. Didn't use to be like that, but restaurants nowadays mainly employ uneducated staff because it's cheaper. And often, they are put in charge of the restaurant alone without any experienced people to ask for help and advice.
I have more or less given up going out to eat, because it's hardly ever worth the money. I only go to places I KNOW provide good food and good service, and as I said: There are not that many left of those...
So yeah, you're right it's not just software engineering.
It creates problems for everybody when people are put in positions they are not equipped to hold. But when money talks, nobody listens to the customer anymore.
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant Anonymous
- The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine Winston Churchill, 1944
- I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy. Me, all the time
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Sorry to burst your bubble, but service never was good in Sweden.
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My bad, I should have thought of that...
It used to be in Denmark, though, but the same trend can be seen there...
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant Anonymous
- The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine Winston Churchill, 1944
- I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy. Me, all the time
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My thoughts, precisely.
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
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I hate the fact that, to my mind, I need to lie on my CV to get it through the first filter of knowless HR drones.
veni bibi saltavi
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Nagy Vilmos wrote: I need to lie on my CV What? You promise to bring gin and then you don't???
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant Anonymous
- The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine Winston Churchill, 1944
- I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy. Me, all the time
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Oh no! It is exactly the other way around!!!
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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I might actually believe that it is true
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Not fair! When I'm working I am mostly sober. For a given value of sober.
veni bibi saltavi
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I see. Yeah well, my scenario would definitely have pissed ME off if I had been the potential employer...
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant Anonymous
- The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine Winston Churchill, 1944
- I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy. Me, all the time
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Quote: I need to lie on my CV I do the same. I have a PhD in Computer Science and used to be a professor teaching the darned stuff until I quit to get a real job. The early years in the UK and Europe were no problem, in fact in Germany the PhD was a real plus to getting a good job. However, when I moved to the US it proved a hindrance and I missed out on a couple of good jobs because of it. The agent told me that the manager didn't want to hire anyone better qualified than they were as I would be a threat to their position! I removed the PhD from my CV and got a decent job almost immediately. Coincidence? I think not.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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