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True red neck dumbassery!
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I thought their moonshine was used as racing fuel. I guess you can't go the other way.
Marc
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"Methanol can make people feel inebriated, but a very small amount of methanol can be toxic, Seger said."
So drink in large quantities only!
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Methanol. This goes by the name of 'hooch' in my country India.
There have been several 'hooch tragedies', where a set of people have consumed hooch, and have therefore lost their life. They say that methanol is easily confused for ethanol.
No first hand experience, though
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On the website gizmoto.com today, there is a posting of a very dated picture of a computer room from 1959:
This Woman Was a Bored Button-Pusher Before Jane Jetson Was Even Born[^]
Aside from the sheer size of the beast and the fact that all of the personnel are wearing suits, the thing that really hits me is the fact that the modern smart phone has several times more computing power and more storage than you see in that entire room! And the cell phone runs on a small battery, instead of a specially installed, conditioned power system!
Yes, ladies, I know. The picture also shows the men standing around while the lone woman is doing all of the work.
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Lord, grant me the serenity to accept that there are some things I just can’t keep up with, the determination to keep up with the things I must keep up with, and the wisdom to find a good RSS feed from someone who keeps up with what I’d like to, but just don’t have the damn bandwidth to handle right now.
© 2009, Rex Hammock
modified 28-Jan-16 15:10pm.
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I love the term "computer console". The whole thing took up the space of a large table. Now, a small phone, if that.
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Not to mention that the console would not have looked misplaced on the sets of the original Star Trek series.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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Where I work we are about to start equipping new starters with mini pcs.
When I saw one of the HP mini pcs I was really impressed by how we will be able to cram what we currently have in some towers into such a small box.
Seeing the mini pcs I would not be surprised if in 10 years a desktop computer was the size of my Samsung Galaxy S4.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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Thanks! Seems like I am 10 years behind
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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Quote: Seems like I am 10 years behind
Please wait up! I will try and catch up with you. I am about 5 years behind you.
How do we preserve the wisdom men will need,
when their violent passions are spent?
- The Lost Horizon
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I'm really looking forward to this becoming a reality. I know that the tech currently exists, but it is still version 0.9. Won't be long, though.
Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend; inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -- Groucho Marx
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What do you mean?
You can already buy them[^].
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I would love to replace my laptop with just a phone. But without paying a great deal of cash, buying a phone powerful enough to work as my primary computer is just not a reality. Sure, I can have my phone screen presented presented on a larger monitor, but right now, most apps won't scale up nicely nor will the phone be powerful enough to handle the more intensive apps.
There is a "cool factor" in being able to plug your phone into a large monitor, but I don't think the ecosystem is mature enough to be fully useful across most phones and apps.
I think it is coming soon, and I think this is a great first step.
Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend; inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -- Groucho Marx
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The biggest problem isn't that they aren't powerful enough, it's rather that they're using an ARM processor, so most applications made for a PC you can't use yet.
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True enough.
Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend; inside of a dog, it's too dark to read. -- Groucho Marx
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Why is it my first thought was that she seemed to be reaching over to complete the Ctrl-Alt-Del sequence?
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The origin of Ctrl-Alt-Del and a rather uncomfortable moment with Bill Gates[^].
My understanding is that the conversation after the clip went along the lines of "I'm funny how? I mean funny like a clown, I amuse you?".
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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Some of us actually worked in places like that, and yes my phone now has more capability than the mainframes I worked on, and no I don't long to return to those days.
However, too many people think the computer age began in 1981 when IBM announced the first PC. Commercial processing had been in existence for 30 years by that time.
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I started working as a programmer in 1971 and spent a lot of time in the "computer room" pushing buttons on consoles slightly smaller than the one in the pic. As underpowered as those computers were compared to my iPhone, I have a strange bit of nostalgia about those days. Blinking lights, tape drives, assembly language...memories.
And you're totally right about many people thinking the computer age began with the introduction of the PC. They have no knowledge of computer history.
Edward
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It is not just computer history that they do not know. While they know who the "first tier" characters of American history, such as Washington, Lincoln, and such, they draw a blank when it comes to the second tier. Just ask them who John Jay was, or try Martin van Buren or James Garfield or ... Well, you get the idea.
Our nation was build by a strange bunch with radical ideas. Just read the second paragraph of the Declaration of Independence[^]. This is stuff we should have learned in elementary school and high school.
Enough with the soap box, already....
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Lord, grant me the serenity to accept that there are some things I just can’t keep up with, the determination to keep up with the things I must keep up with, and the wisdom to find a good RSS feed from someone who keeps up with what I’d like to, but just don’t have the damn bandwidth to handle right now.
© 2009, Rex Hammock
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Jalapeno Bob wrote: is the fact that the modern smart phone has several times more computing power and more storage than you see in that entire room!
I could not find any direct comparables but I am rather certain that several benchmarks are going to be quite a bit more than "several".
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I'm just an anonymous poster, but I notice that several of you are intrigued by the fact of "my smartphone has many times more power than this room sized machine". While not incorrect, it is woefully inadequate as a comparison.
As best as I can tell, the machine depicted in these photos is the circa 1959 RCA 501 Data Processing System:
http://archive.computerhistory.org/resources/text/RCA/RCA.501.1958.102646273.pdf[^]
http://www.computer.org/csdl/proceedings/afips/1958/5052/00/50520066.pdf[^]
Since word sizes and other concepts weren't entirely "standardized" to our current ideas and words relating to speeds, memory, and disk capacities - it isn't easy to compare that system to today's machines exactly, but one can get close enough.
For instance - the basic specs (at least, according to the above brochures and such) of the 501 indicate that, had you purchased the biggest machine they sold (and there's a good chance that these machines were lease-only) - it would have been a machine with a whopping 260K-characters of RAM (characters may have been anything from 7 bits on up in width; probably to a maximum of 36 bits or so). Even if we say each character was a 32 bit word, that only equates to about 1 Megabyte of memory.
Near-line random access (think "disk" drive) storage, and of course tape storage and punch-card storage, could all be expanded much further - but due to the size of the "drives" and the need to storage of those larger formats, buildings would have been needed to keep anything greater than a few hundred megabytes of data close at hand (and some customers probably did set things up this way).
Speed? Difficult to say. But we can probably safely put it as somewhere around 1 MHz - maybe 2 if we're being generous. This isn't really an accurate or fair way to rate such a system, though - it really isn't a comparable thing. But you can bet that compared to today's systems, it was dog slow.
That doesn't even take into account the size of the air conditioning systems needed to cool the thing (multiple 12-ton a/c units, if I read correctly).
Oh - did I say today's systems? While true - it isn't a good picture. What would be something more modern that would be comparable to it? Something that could be purchased in the past by an ordinary person, which could have had the same processing and storage capability?
Just about any microcomputer from the late 1970s to the mid-1980s would likely qualify: Apple IIe, C=64, Atari, TRS-80, etc; any of these, with a floppy drive and a box of floppies, would have likely been faster and had more storage, than the RCA 501, 20 years prior.
Now - do you think your phone has more power than those personal machines? Of course you do. What, perhaps, was considered a "top of the line" system of those days?
Well:
Cray-2 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[^]
That machine was one of the fastest - if not the fastest - supercomputers on the planet back in 1985. Read about it - then notice one of the closing lines of the article:
"In 2012, Piotr Luszczek (a former doctoral student of Jack Dongarra), presented results showing that an iPad 2 matched the historical performance of the Cray-2 on an embedded LINPACK benchmark."
Here we are - 4 years later. We're up to the iPad 4. Smartphones haven't gotten slower; they've gotten faster, have gained more "cores" and speed, more memory, better GPUs, etc. They are connected 24/7 to the rest of the internet (and to each other).
So what can you say from all of this?
Well, number one, you theoretically carry around in your pocket enough processing power to simulate and design nuclear weapons with. You could predict (with varying levels of accuracy) the weather. You could model various real-life physical systems. In short, you (many of us!) have in your pocket enough processing power that would have made data scientists, researchers, various government agencies - from 1985 - green jealous with envy. In fact, it is no stretch of the imagination to think, that if you could somehow take something like a smartphone back to 1985 - you would be one of the most hunted persons on the planet.
Today, it would be comparable to if somebody showed you a phone that had the power of a clustered system of D-Wave quantum computers; do you really think there isn't a government that would kill to have that kind of portable computing power? Think again.
As someone whose first computers was one of those machines from the early 1980s (a TRS-80 Color Computer, specifically - with 16K!) - I am and always will be amazed and floored, yet grounded in reality - of what we carry in our pockets. Our desktops and laptops are even greater in power (heck, the video card in many systems has an insane amount of processing power compared to earlier supercomputers).
But what amazes me most about all of this? Despite the fact that we each carry around with us so much computing power (stick a hundred of us in a conference room, and we'd likely have more computing power in that room than the world did in 1985) - we still don't do much with it, as individuals. Instead, we use these machines in the most mundane of ways: email, web browsing, gaming, music. For the most part, they are nothing more than entertainment boxes, and the majority of people have no concept of how they work or anything. To them, it is magic.
Indeed, in my own profession (I am a software engineer) - you could ask more than a few of my fellow colleagues, and they themselves would be hard-pressed to tell you how a computer really works. Even for them, it's become a "magic box". Sure - they code on it - but they couldn't tell you how the system turns that code into the output. Do they need to know this? Not really - but it would honestly make them better programmers if they did. Unfortunately, it isn't something that is taught any more except in graduate computer science courses (and even there it seems like something of a rarity - which worries me).
So - keep all of this in mind when you next look at your smartphone. Your smartphone is more than just "faster than that RCA machine" - a better analogy would be to say your smartphone is as far removed from the RCA 501, as the 501 was to ancient stone counting tables (aka - the abacus).
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I worked in a data center similar to the one in the photo. The person sitting at the console had the "easier" job. Continually mounting and dismounting magnetic tapes on the tape drives was a bit more work.
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Is oxygen the element of surprise?
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