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Me Ogg. Me said first.
Software Zen: delete this;
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"You're an Engineer, Harry!"
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Heard during my college day:
Engineer is one who rides an engine.
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A bumper sticker an mechanical engineer college student had:
"A some point in every project, you have to shoot the engineer and start production."
Bond
Keep all things as simple as possible, but no simpler. -said someone, somewhere
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Mike Hankey wrote: Someone who does precision guesswork based on unreliable data provided by those of questionable knowledge
... to create systems that work in unreliable environments designed and install by sadistic idiots.
"Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana."
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Engineer's Lament
I'm not allowed to run the train
The whistle I can't blow…
I'm not allowed to say how far
The railroad cars can go.
I'm not allowed to shoot off steam,
Nor even clang the bell…
But let the damn train jump the track
And see who catches Hell!
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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sounds like a country western song.
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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Train Drivers aren't Engineers. They're train drivers.
Motor mechanics aren't engineers either. Nor are washing machine repairmen. Nor brick-layers or carpenters. Nor are code-jockeys.
All skilled jobs, but not Engineers.
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haughtonomous wrote: Train Drivers aren't Engineers. They're train drivers.
The name for a train driver in the 19th century was "engineer", because he controlled the engine. The meaning of the word has drifted a bit since that ditty was written.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Mike Hankey wrote: See also Wizard, Magician
For outsiders, it often is.
Now, for my next trick I need a volunteer.
Anyone?
Bastard Programmer from Hell
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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I resemble that remark!
One of my favorite shirts has on the front, "Engineering: Solving Problems You Didn't Know You Had In Ways You Can't Understand."
Most people have never seen it, since the vast majority have so short an attention span that they won't read anything longer than 4 (short) words.
Will Rogers never met me.
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Roger Wright wrote: "Engineering: Solving Problems You Didn't Know You Had In Ways You Can't Understand."
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JaxCoder.com
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There are many fields of medicine such as dentistry where engineering a big part of the job.
They build bridges, too.
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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A scientist, without an engineer, is just an artist... scrabbling on paper.
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Scrabbling? Nice image.
Scientists provide the knowledge and understanding that enables engineers to create practical things. Without scientists engineers wouldn't exist.
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I disagree. You ignore the part that theoreticians have to play in fields such as physics.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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So how does that make my statement invalid? It's still just something on a piece of paper.
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Because an artist's scribbles have no requirement other than satisfying the "artistic sense" (whatever that is) of the artist.
A scientific theory, OTOH, must satisfy constraints such as non-contradiction of known facts, self-consistency, and quite a few others.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.
-- 6079 Smith W.
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Sure, in a perfect world. In the real world you have people like Kaku, making money on lectures, where he says that quantum entanglement is a path to the teleportation of humans.
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not mention the mathematics
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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All those "mad scientists" in the movies were actually mad engineers. They weren't doing experiments - they were designing and building things to do whatever their mad plot was.
Best switcheroo by engineering PR ever.
Bond
Keep all things as simple as possible, but no simpler. -said someone, somewhere
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An engineer and a scientist is a great combo in one person.
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Mike Hankey wrote: See also Wizard, Magician
Funny you should mention that.
Nothing succeeds like a budgie without teeth.
To err is human, to arr is pirate.
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I've always had the experience we Engineers are the closest in the universe to having the role of god. Everything in a project depends on our will to make it exist or not. It's not too much effort to tell the boss or client their ideas are downright stupid (maybe worded as "impractical", "Pie in the sky", "non sequitor", etc.,etc.) and they need to reevaluate their lives (maybe worded as "must reprioritize", "Look at the problem from a different angle", etc.).
Still, if we are called upon to fix the universe, it's not impossible, it just takes a little longer.
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Isn't part of being an engineer being able to get all the necessary information from people who probably don't even know they have it? That would suggest a first question of "who will be building this, can I talk to them now?".
AS a professional structural engineer I always found the most important period was at the beginning when I worked out what it was I should be designing.
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