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The last firm I engineered for got me AutoCAD LT, then refused to send me to any training. I got fairly good at laying out a dimensioned assembly good enough to order substation steel and foundations, and have all the pieces I designed fit together, but that's about all. I never learned how to make annotations work, or how to create standard drawing sheets with all the approvals and stuff, primarily because they demanded everything be done as fast as it would have been if we'd farmed out the design to consultants. When I bought 20 acres in AZ, I bought my own copy, and still have it because I keep forgetting to cancel the autorenew thingy. I'm still not much good at it for lack of any practice.
I tried out DraftSight years ago, but gave up on it. There is nothing intuitive about it, and back then there were no tutorials I could find. They also had no pricing I could afford. I'm told they now offer low cost versions for hobbyists, and the online training has expanded greatly. They also have a big brother 3D version that has its own pricing structure, but they seem to be willing to dicker.
Both are great products, but very challenging to learn without training. Don't even get me started on ESRI ArcGIS - been that route, too, and you could build a Master degree program on learning to use that stuff!
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I have lately been using the free version of SketchUp (online version 2022, offline the 2017) and it is pretty easy to use.
It is probably not enough to do what you would like to do, but to start with 3D and get some practice is pretty good.
It needs registration, but you can use the online version just for "fun" tests without having to install anything.
Edit: I have seen that you are just ranting about the skills. But skills are trainable, that's why I have told you this (a possibility to practice without installing anything)
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Have you tried it? It's Computer Aided after all.
You're sharp, you can do it.
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I use AC3D and Rhino3D. Not free for sure, but they handle all CAD requirements.
Rhino3D has an excellent tutorial which interns (new to CAD) seem to like and progress.
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I wish I were better with USD.
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Could a Proctologist be considered an Analyst?
I'll show myself out
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Using the rule of the thumb index finger, I would say - yes.
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You ask the most probing questions...
If you can't laugh at yourself - ask me and I will do it for you.
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LOL
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English language never fails to punish us.
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Now i know i are a programmer as i enjoyed those jokes Very puny .
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Seems like your joke level has hit the bottom now...
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Check out this MS Office365 graphic that shows how many people can use your Office365 (snapshot with highlights[^]).
So 6 people can have it, but only 5 people can simultaneously use it???
Rocket Science & Brain Surgery are easy. Licensing, on the other hand...
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My reading of the license is that 6 people can use it, and each of those 6 people can be logged in on up to 5 devices simultaneously. I know that my family license for it is normally logged in on anywhere from 10 to 12 devices across 5 different users.
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RDM Jr wrote: My reading of the license is that 6 people can use it, and each of those 6 people can be logged in on up to 5 devices simultaneously.
Oh, ok, that makes a lot more sense. Hahaha...I'm definitely not a Rocket-Scientist/Brain-Surgeon.
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Did they increase member number, I remembered max 5 users. And every user can have the applications on 5 devices.
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I'm not sure. It's just a very odd licensing to me. 6 people but only 5 devices.
And I think "simultaneously" means "installed" but maybe doesn't mean running concurrently.
Licensing, the new Rocket-Science/Brain-Surgery.
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raddevus wrote: Rocket Science & Brain Surgery are easy. Licensing, on the other hand... The first are scientific fields, the later was made because of lawyers...
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Nelek wrote: The first are scientific fields, the later was made because of lawyers...
Oh my gosh! That explains it exactly!! So funny (and true and scary)
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#6 is the sys admin.
They don't need to use it
but only make sure the 5 that can do.
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I suppose you wanted to answer raddevous instead of answering me.
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I wasn't responding to anyone particular. Just to the idea that license for 6 only allows 5 at once or something like that, In these chains of responses, I never am quite sure how the response order will go or who is responding to whom. I usually name them if that is my response is a particular person.
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jmaida wrote: I never am quite sure how the response order will go or who is responding to whom. The response will hang to the message where you click "Reply" and the answer to a message is indented one position deeper. Same indentation, same message as parent. It is as you were nesting "If" and "Else ifs"
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Understood. Makes sense. I just lose track of who I am answering and what level they are.
Getting old eyes, I guess.
I'll be 76 this year.
Thanx for your response.
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That's common with espensive software. The company has X licenses that can be used concurrently by all the authorized employees.
I had some nice quality time when the entire customer company was developing an ECU and we couldn't compile because all available GreenHills' licenses were used - even better when the IDE was open but the devs were doing entirely different things, or the devs in otehr timezones set the workstation in sleep (it didn't release the licenses) and went out for their night.
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