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Bought a tablet; £100 ($100 in America, but that's another story!).
It's an HP Stream 7. Windows 8.1. And I've got to say that it is excellent. A real 'magic carpet' experience.
The price includes a year's subscription to Office 365 and a TB of Cloud.
Of course it takes some cajoling to get it to play nicely with other systems, onedrive-d for Linux syncing, plus it cannot do USB mass storage, so loading music onto the blessed thing is inconvenient.
But overall, the experience inspires confidence.
Microsoft should have been targeting this price from the beginning.
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The cameras look a bit...well...rubbish (0.3MP front?)
But other than that, it looks like a good bit of kit.
What's it like to use, with only 1GB of RAM? (I had more than that in my Win98 box...and it struggled)
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Fairly fast, very fluid. Smooth graphics. Responsive. More responsive than my Android, with less jamming after boot as there is a civilised and less frequent update path for apps. Large app selection(I bought it as a work tablet), including a rudimentary irc client. It sits on my desk at the office monitoring open source specialist chats.
With the processor being a four-core Atom, it's x86 and that means full scale'PC' 8.1(which would cost more than the whole tablet if you went crazy and bought it), which may qualify for the upgrade path to ten - don't yet know(or care).
Battery life is supposed to be up to 8 hours, but I got 12 out it yesterday; about double my Android (HP Slate 7).
The only big scores for the (old) Slate are Beats Audio and better wallets.
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Simon O'Riordan from UK wrote: it cannot do USB mass storage
Are you saying this because it doesn't have a full-size USB port, or have you actually tried it?
I've ordered a USB -> MicroUSB adapter to try out with mine--I suspect that, as it's an x86 CPU, Windows with detect any device "properly" and be able to use any of the existing drivers...
Meanwhile, there's still the MicroUSB SD slot...
modified 1-Dec-14 9:25am.
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Using the micro usb it doesn't show up on Linux or win7. I haven't found any settings that enable mass storage. Probably deliberate. Still, there's always an excellent file manager with Dropbox integration(both *available* ), so it's possible to relay.
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I have a hard time believing that HP or Microsoft is making a profit on such a sale. If I'm right and they're dumping product - don't expect a long life of support on it. Just saying...
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington
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The only support you'll need is 8.1 and that will be around a while.
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Simon O'Riordan from UK wrote: The only support you'll need is 8.1 and that will be around a while. Unless of course a security issue pops up and Microsoft issues an 8.1.1 or 8.2 and it doesn't work on the unit because of some weird driver issue and HP doesn't care because they've abandoned the product line due to financial losses.
Disclaimer: Before some of you (you know who you are) get all defensive and start accusing me of all forms of heresy and fanbois-isms, R-E-L-A-X!!! I'm not suggesting its a bad tablet or it should not be purchased or used. I'm simply pointing out the possible reality based on the economics (and similar histories) in an effort to temper expectations. No more, no less.
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington
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Now now. Stop whining and eat your sprouts.
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Mike Mullikin wrote: I have a hard time believing that HP or Microsoft is making a profit on such a sale.
We already know Microsoft doesn't; OEMs now get the license for free for 7" devices and smaller.
Mike Mullikin wrote: don't expect a long life of support on it.
That wouldn't be any different than most Android tablets then. I have a Coby stuck at 2.2, an Acer at 4.2, and I'm not holding my breath for being able to upgrade my Dell from 4.4 to 5.0. There's Cyanogenmod, but that's not manufacturer support, which is what we're discussing.
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At the 102nd Grey cup game. Section 431.picture
Within you lies the power for good - Use it!
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OK, give up.
Where is Wally?
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I can see lots.
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Assuming you were there? How was the game?
It is an entirely different game from the American version.
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Assuming? You calling me a liar?
The game was great. Would have been better if the hometown BC Lions had made the game.
It went right down to the final seconds before we knew who won.
Within you lies the power for good - Use it!
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Moved south almost 16 years ago; lost touch with when the big game happens.
Glad you could be there for it.
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They broke the cup again!!!!
What an end-game!!!! Hamilton lost it by a simple foul.
I'd rather be phishing!
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A 90 yard kickoff return for the winning TD with seconds left in the game, only to have it called back because of a illegal block.
If I wasn't cheering for Calgary I would have been quite disappointed.
Within you lies the power for good - Use it!
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"The most important thing in the programming language is the name. A language will not succeed without a good name. I have recently invented a very good name and now I am looking for a suitable language." Donald Knuth, 1967 I ask for your ideas unashamedly, knowing that amongst you, passing as regulation-issue geeks and nerds, are prognosticators, platitudinissimi, and psychics, as well as comedians whose arts range in shade from black to procul-harum-whiter-shade-of-pale.
So, may I ask you, rhetorically, with great tenderness, and ... let me reassure you ... no hoist-you-on-your-own-petard intentionality: "haven't you already imagined ... even made notes for ... the next great programming language, or thought of the Name-of-Names for this wonder ?"
So, if it's not too presumptuous to ask, and wouldn't constitute the equivalent of a pre-launch leak that would scuttle your ship of dreams whilst it was still in drydock:
What's the Name ?
p.s. If you'll kindly read the sig just below, I invite you to think of what would have happened if Kay had opted for MOP, rather than OOP.
«OOP to me means only messaging, local retention and protection and hiding of state-process, and extreme late-binding of all things. » Alan Kay's clarification on what he meant by the term "Object" in "Object-Oriented Programming."
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Audible Basic
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Sounds right to me !
«OOP to me means only messaging, local retention and protection and hiding of state-process, and extreme late-binding of all things. » Alan Kay's clarification on what he meant by the term "Object" in "Object-Oriented Programming."
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"Edible Basic" sounds better - or could at least be more easily digested!
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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Basic Bacon. And it is edible too.
Life is too shor
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I like "HOPE" !
What does the "E" stand for ? "Enthusiasm" ? "Elegance" ? "Exoteric" ? "Exotic" ? "Érotisme" ?
And, it would be like so cool if HOPE had a scripting language named HOP, with primitives like SKIP, JUMP, FORGOTTOSAYMAYI that made some of the powerful, and complex, patterns in HOPE usable by mere mortals
All, kidding aside: you have expressed some visionary ideas/insights about programming on CP over the years, and shown some very useful techniques for rendering C# more usable in the "functional way."
I'd like to see you, Anders, Mads, Andrew T., Eric L., Jon S., Miguel de I, Pete O', Sacha B, isolated in a rural cabin (with no internet, or telephone) for a month, and see what new language would emerge ! CodeProject could cover lawyer/legal expenses in case of divorce following your emergence, or other lawsuits, homicide defense costs, etc.
«OOP to me means only messaging, local retention and protection and hiding of state-process, and extreme late-binding of all things. » Alan Kay's clarification on what he meant by the term "Object" in "Object-Oriented Programming."
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