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I've never had to work with such large code bases and I certainly respect your internal conventions. However, a little devil inside me thinks that a tool converting _variable to variable_ shouldn't be all that bad 
Mircea
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Mircea Neacsu wrote: a tool converting _variable to variable_ shouldn't be all that bad
Unfortunately a majority of our code base is C++, and Visual Studio support for refactoring it is still error-prone even in VS2022. They still exceed the scope when renaming values.
Software Zen: delete this;
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grep 
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Don't you mean grep_?
Jeremy Falcon
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Mircea Neacsu wrote: However, a little devil inside me thinks that a tool converting _variable to variable_ shouldn't be all that bad 
I may be dumb as rocks, but I know a good idea when I see it. If I ever make any global edits to my code, I use regular expressions to do so. Now would be a good time to save a backup. Then run the editing script. I learned that the hard way. The editing script almost always changes things that you don't intend to edit. I've encountered catastrophes doing this. I've written 25,000 lines of JavaScript code on a single web page. With that much code, any attempt at a global edit would likely result in a disaster.
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I upvoted this. While I don't think the original posts warrants jail time. I do think name dangling a variable isn't that big of a deal. Peeps that speak in such absolutes tend to lack experience, never lead or worked in a team successfully, etc. - in my experience.
Yes, today's tools make it a lot less necessary, but imagine a C/C++ application where you intend for it to be portable and have no guarantee any code viewer/editor/IDE will have introspection/intellisense.
If it's something like VS only, Windows specific C++, never to be ported type app, I could see not doing it. Just depends on context. Although, I'd argue that this day and age writing Windows only C++ code is selling the app short.
Jeremy Falcon
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Mircea Neacsu wrote: Maybe the author wanted to write:
That's how I read it, as in there's a way to fake like being online in the application. Probably could've used a non boolean logic type variable name though, but not worth homicide. 
Jeremy Falcon
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Gary Wheeler wrote: if ( ( _recStatus.OnlineState() == ONLINE ) || (_falseOnline == true) )
If online or offline, then return true... 
Gary Wheeler wrote: This is motivation for homicide.
Grab your shovels, your pick axes, and your pitchforks. This egregious violation of logic will not be tolerated. 
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Welcome, God Of Second Guessing One's Self.
cheers
Chris Maunder
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gary - you and I need to grill a couple of steaks together... I do not suffer stupid either.
For you "youngsters" I would give you some career advice... the veteran who walks around pissed off all the time? Find a reason to talk to him. Or her, but.... You might gain some tribal knowledge that is RAPIDLY evaporating. I'm sure the world will go on, but learn to garden 
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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rename _falseOnline to _fakeOnline or better yet _impersonateOnline
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A guy bought a bootleg Sunton 4.3" inch off AliExpress. For those of you not familiar with it, it's basically a clearinghouse for chinese knockoffs and a good source of hard to find electronics, even if it's sketchy as hell.
Anyway, he couldn't get the display working, because the thing doesn't advertise what it knocked off, did not come with schematics, nor code.
Based on little more than an image and the name of the LCD controller it used I was able to find the sunton device it was clearly a copy of.
Then we got the display working with the Sunton code.
Now it uses a different touch controller IC than the real mccoy so I'm having the guy run an I2C scan to find out the address the device reports on.
From there I will basically work my way backward to a touch driver chip.
It feels a bit like old school hacking.
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I wouldn't put too much effort into it - in my experience, Chinese electronics have the same shelf life as cheesecake ...
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
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It depends on the vendor honestly.
Makerfabs makes quality kit. So does Espressif.
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The vendor of the electronics or the vendor of the cheesecake?
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Cheesecake? 
The electronics definitely.
Check out my IoT graphics library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx
And my IoT UI/User Experience library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix
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Griff posted "in my experience, Chinese electronics have the same shelf life as cheesecake ..." and you said "It depends on the vendor honestly" and then I was thinking about cheesecake and relative shelf life.
Because I'm hungry and would kill for a decent cheesecake about now. But it would really depend on the vendor...
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Hahaha, I missed it. I'm really distracted. Talking to an old friend on the phone.
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Against my (better) judgement I cannot help to chime in.
There was a time when war ravaged country recovered, with US help, and started competing with cheap and shoddy products. "They " soon realized that shoddy products where not selling and made a real cool stuff - likes cameras...and cars...boom boxes...
Most businessmen are "smarter then an average bear " to realize that quality sells in the long run,
they pay very little attention to narrow-minded opinions about "cheesecakes"- they will figure it out sooner or later.
On more serious note
I often wonder if the "problem" with electronic is "intellectual property" or US inability to actually manage the production - technologically and financially...
I guess I just keep wondering and buy what I need from whomever is selling it...
Yes - solid state electronic has a shelf life....
psst wanna buy a bridge ? cheap...
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I think there's been a misunderstanding.
As I said to Griff originally, it all depends on the vendor.
AliExpress however, does no quality checking. They are just a clearinghouse for retailing stuff from China.
The vendors, well it depends. There are a lot of vendors who make knockoff gear. A lot of them sell on AliExpress.
But, there are good vendors out of China as I said, like Espressif, Makerfabs, and if I'm being generous, Lilygo.
So it just depends, pretty much like anywhere else, but for volume - China produces a LOT of stuff.
Check out my IoT graphics library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx
And my IoT UI/User Experience library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix
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Oh yeah ... a good cheesecake is a thing of rare beauty.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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so, a number of my clients allow me to submit IT support requests via email. Since I'm not an employee, I have no access to the employee portal. I'm left to emailing support-asses@yourguess.com. I made that last part up.
me: "Hi, your remote server is not accessible, and I am on a tight deadline. Help."
email: "Opened on your behalf..."
email: "Your incident has been re-assigned..."
Via email, I have no ability to tweak the priority level. Or get any contact. I need to start an IT support company 
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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When looking for IT support software that was on premises and not online, I was amazed how difficult it was to find something that catered for both our support and IT department needs. It seems support and development are different worlds and they have no clue what's happening on the development side or how information should be coupled with e.g. Git or Continous Integration systems.
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tempted to hang a shingle.
"Ancient IT worker, Speaks native American Engrish, $200 per hour, min 1 hour"
"Hello IT support, have you rebooted yet?"
LOL
To err is human to really elephant it up you need a computer
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Context: Merica!!!! where half the people don't pay taxes but can still vote... John, I need you now...
I actually retire in wait... checking... 8 days. I guess I would call my retirement a realignment of nonsense. My entire neighborhood is getting old. We love are homes and our land and are laid waste by GeekSquad and lawn care companies. I plan to pick up some cash...
The good news is that my MIL is legally blind (keeps her off the computer and makes for hilarious interactions with Nigerian or Indian scammers) and my FIL despises and is so luddite on computers it's a crime.
Meanwhile, the remote server seems to work, the corporate IT group are clueless - customer farmed it all out to some Indian group that are totally useless. Read more below. But you corporations that farm your work out... here's your sign: Google[^]
What I have purposed in my heart is elephant it. I worked till 9pm the last job I loved on the last day. Not this time.
Meanwhile, I have no response from IT....
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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