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I am in to C#, VB.NET, VBA for now. Wondering what could be the best bet to learn from a MS developer standpoint ?
Cheers.
Mani
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C++/Cx?
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That really depends on what you want to do with your career. Do you want to be a web developer? Learn JavaScript and technologies like Backbone, jQuery and Knockout. Do you want to develop games? Learn C++. WinRT programming? Well, XAML and C++ is a good fit.
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Chinese.
No, seriously. Look at the way they are gobbling up every other market...
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Hahaha good one
I am seriously considering to start learning Japanese But probably i should first learn English .
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Argonia wrote: But probably i should first learn English
I was able to understand what you said. So your english can't be too bad
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He's probably just using Google translate
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What a mindf**k that'll be. Can you imagine India outsourcing its jobs to China?
"I do not have to forgive my enemies, I have had them all shot." — Ramón Maria Narváez (1800-68).
"I don't need to shoot my enemies, I don't have any." - Me (2012).
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No kidding... India is already outsourcing to Mexico.
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In fact the possibilities of C#, VB.Net and C++.Net (known as Visual C++ too) are equal for a MS developer.
But: If you learn VisualC++ you are able switch later to "normal" C++, improve your knowledge and do e.g. hardware-near programming. IMO VisualC++ improves your value as a developer more than the other languages and if you are able to do VisualC++ programming is writing C# code not a big deal because there are only a few differences.
VBA is just important for basic Macro programming within MS Office so some basic knowledge there wouldn't be too bad.
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I am surprised no one mentioned F# yet ?
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Well I was going to but you got there first.
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Seems like a good place to start: http://preview.tryfsharp.org/[^]
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- Homer
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Also, wondering why so many +1's for C++. Do we intend to see a lot of ooportunities in the next years with C++ ? I am humbly surprised !
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Have you tried Brainfuck[^] or INTERCAL[^]?
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Don't forget Malbolge[^] and Whitespace[^].
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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How about LOLCODE[^]
It even has a .NET compiler: http://code.google.com/p/lolcode-dot-net/[^]
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ASP.NET MVC 4 (+JavaScript, jQuery, CSS). Or maybe that newfangled Windows Runtime stuff (especially XAML).
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Does learning yet another way to use .NET really get you anywhere?
Maybe learning a new framework (or, dare I say, platform?) would be more beneficial. Expanding horizons and all. It wouldn't hurt to be less career dependent on the future of .NET. But regardless of that, you're likely to encounter some ideas and practices that improve your .NET programming.
Barring that, TypeScript looks promising and is a good gateway to what the rest of the world is doing on the web.
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Yep, methinks so too. You're better off being able to jump to anything else than simply learn a new interface into DotNet. From past experience, MS's libraries don't last for much more than 10 years - if they're used a lot, unlike stuff such as SilverLight
So the much more pertinent question is: What new set of libs should you be on the lookout for. And then you can relax and learn some weird programming concepts (try the strangest language you can find - by all means) to make you a better programmer instead of someone who knows how to look into DotNet from a different angle .
I'd recommend Lisp & C to start off with. Those 2 would probably give you a grounding for absolutely all possible concepts yet devised in the entire programming field. Thereafter learn languages for fun. Try to make something for another system (e.g. Linux / Mac / Android / etc. etc. etc.) Try to make same portable - to work on any system with only a re-compile at worst!
Once you can do all that, you've literally covered all your bases, no way you will get a curve-ball in the head
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To really force yourself to learn functional programming properly, its hard to beat Haskell, as its purity prevents you slipping back into procedural approaches too easily.
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irneb wrote: I'd recommend Lisp & C to start off with
Functional language, yes, C, meh. Unmanaged C++ is probably better than C, you'll learn most of the same fun as C and know the most likely language used to solve problems that don't fit C# and VB* well. After those, as irneb suggests, do some dev for another system. I recommend some mobile development, and android in particular, because its new libs, language, IDE, application model, execution environment, product mentality, etc. all rolled into one.
We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.
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I think you all miss the point...
I think Microsoft is going to loose it, and will be bankrupt in a few years
So, move outside the MS world... I am a .NET developer myself, but am considering moving to Java or something like that...
Currently MS is messing up everything they touch.. i expect Android to take over the complete desktop world as well... like they already did with the phones, tables..browser.. and so..or are you honestly telling me you still use IE or outlook?
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If you have a good foundation in a number of languages and paradigms (I can't believe I wrote that) then you will be well-prepared for whatever they throw at you.
All general-purpose programming languages do essentially the same things, just differently. Viva la difference!
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C++ and JavaScript are going to take over the world
Also, give Go (http://golang.org[^]) a try.
There's also a move to functional programming so give Haskell or F# a try
And don't forget Python, it's the glue holding everything together.
Oh, and if you want to do data analysis then also check out R (http://www.r-project.org/[^])
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