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FTP deprecated???
Are you suggesting that Gopher may be going away as well?
Then, which tools are available for navigating gopher sites?
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Not FTP itself, just in browsers.
And now I return to being sad about Gopher.
TTFN - Kent
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I don't think Gopher itself is super important today. But in the early 1990s, when I was teaching college students Internet protocols, we saw HTTP as natural, stepwise evolution of Gopher. HTTP was just an extension of the Gopher content alternatives, where links could be arbrirarity baked into the text content.
There is no doubt that we underestimated the importance of HTML - more so than HTTP. There is no doubt that we under-estimated the importance of supplying extra information with the request. Yet we saw it as a stepwise evolution: Allowing links to other resources to be embedded in the text. Supplying information with the request. Fairly simple extensions, from a technical point of view. We never saw it as anything revolutionary, brand new, never seen before, but as a great improvement to what we had.
Most web user had never seen Gopher, so to them it was revolutionary. Even among those who had used Gopher, many were flashed by the and fancy uses of the new HTML data contents format, and never realized how small the differences were to Gopher data, at least on the conceptual level.
I were never astonished by neither HTTP nor HTML, in themselves - both are simple extensions of earlier protocols (such as Gopher). What astonisehed me (and continue to do so!) is how content developers manage to utilize these rather primitive (it must be admitted!) mechanism for presenting rather impressing content!
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Gopher[^] was never the same after they let Phillip Schofield leave the Broom Cupboard.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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I seem to recall seeing that on slashdot, I think. I had totally forgotten about it. I did check before posting here and my version of chrome (83.0.4103.61) still works.
About the only site I use ftp on is ftp.gnu.org, to grab the latest version of gcc, make or gdb. Everything else is downloaded over https either by a click on the web site or via wget.
Keep Calm and Carry On
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Thanks!
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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I have used WS_FT95 for years. It's simple. And free.
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BobbyStrain wrote: WS_FT95 for years
This was my first ftp utility and I used it until I moved to 64-bit. I liked it so much that I wrote my own based on that design. (with a few enhancements)
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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... like: End of command line interfaces?
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I posted the same. I should have read the responses first.
agreed. end of story.
modified 3-Jun-20 11:25am.
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I thought I did. Oh well...
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sorry, not what I meant. I meant "I" should have read the responses first. I corrected my post.
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I always liked Filezilla. It's great.
Real programmers use butterflies
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Thanks very much to all who responded. I have FileZilla up and running. Seems very simple to get my ftp done.
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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I've been using FileZilla for years... It works well and it's free.
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Thanks! I got FileZilla in the end.
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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I've been using Filezilla for years too - pretty straightforward to use once the connection is set up.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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Thanks!
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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Thanks!
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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Cp-Coder wrote: My daughter does an online course for which she needs to ftp some files. I haven't ftp-ed in years and need advice on a good (free?) ftp client. Any advice will be sincerely appreciated! Thanks!
In Windows, File Explorer will do the job. Create a shortcut to Explorer, and in the target, specify the url in the usual escapy syntax. Here is an example of one I use:
%SYSTEMROOT%\explorer.exe ftp://username@ftp.blahblah.com
This syntax will ask you for password. You can leave off the username field and it will ask for that as well if you prefer doing it that way.
Now you have a regular explorer window that you can use over an ftp connection...
I'm retired. There's a nap for that...
- Harvey
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Interesting. Thanks, but I am all set with FileZilla.
Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!
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If I understood it correctly (not sure about it), this is going to get deprecated
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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