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You wouldn't believe the minimum requirements for building insulation in this country (Norway)! With any normal grade insulation mats, you need 12 in thick mats (I am yet talking about high quality insulation). Of course you must also have a sealed wind shield so that no hot air leaks out of the house. Windows have 3-layer glass (with insulating gases between the glass layers) to fulfill the requirements.
Take my living room as an example, covering half of my first floor. It has one long outer wall of about 8 meters, two shorter walls of 4 m. They are 2,5 m tall, making 40 square meter of wall surface. The maximum permitted loss is 0.18 W/sq.m per degree temperature difference, i.e. 7.2 Watt/degree. With -30°C outdoors and I want 20°C indoors, a heater delivering 360 W should be enough to keep my living room warm.
Windows are allowed more loss, up to 0.8 W/sq.m per degree. The two 1.2 m square windows, roughly 3 square meters total, are allowed 2.4 W/degree, or 120 W heat loss when it is -30°C outside. So, I may have to raise the pwer of the heater to 500 Watt. Or maybe not - a human in ordinary social activity emits in the order of 100 W, so inviting a few friends in should be enough.
The basement floor to the ground is only allowed 0.1 W/sq.m per degree. The ground two meters below the surface doesn't go much below freezing (the ground usually freezes about one meter deep in cold winters). So a 100 sq.m basement heated to 20°C (20 degrees above the ground temperature) should have a maximum heat loss through the floor of 200 W.
These are not extreme cases, it is the minimum requirement for new buildings. We will of course save a lot on the heating bill, but it most definitely does help keeping down the cost of putting up a new house!
In my opinion, the authorities have gone too far in their eagerness to save energy.
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That is pretty stiff. I guess good insulation is important when you live so far north though.
Steve Wozniak is the only thing at Apple that isn't evil.
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k5054 wrote: -34C (-29F) Where the elephant are you situated?
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant Anonymous
- The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine Winston Churchill, 1944
- Never argue with a fool. Onlookers may not be able to tell the difference. Mark Twain
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Currently, he's in the kitchen cooking bacon.
No need to thank me, I'm glad to be of help.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
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if it's -34C (-29F) in his kitchen, I don't think any amout of bacon can warm him up!
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant Anonymous
- The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine Winston Churchill, 1944
- Never argue with a fool. Onlookers may not be able to tell the difference. Mark Twain
modified 14-Jan-20 10:06am.
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Bacon can do many, many wondrous things.
It can even turn vegans back to normal ... if they give it a chance.
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
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Just keep ignoring the obvious.
The bacon didn't do the pig that was wearing any ing good, did it?
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Who cares, even pigs love bacon. I learned that from one of the Jackass movies.
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If I weren't a nice guy I'd say you learned a lot from Jackass movies.
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Waaaaaait a minute...are you trying to say something about me? Or are you referencing the royal "you"...?
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Johnny J. wrote: Where the elephant are you situated?
Edmonton, Alberta. Colder here than Resolute Bay up in the high arctic, and they're not expecting sunrise for another 3 weeks or so. As long as its not too windy, and the sun is out and the sky is blue, it can have its perks. But once the lottery gods smile on my supplications, its Tahiti on the next flight out.
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I don't think even Gordon Lightfoot would be Alberta Bound[^] in that kind of weather.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
"I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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Curious:
Why US flag? Can-aid-e-ya is not yet part of the US of A.
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W∴ Balboos wrote: Why US flag? Can-aid-e-ya is not yet part of the US of A.
Not quite. It's pronounced Candinavia.
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Fixed. I swear sometimes I must be dyslexic.
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modified 14-Jan-20 15:36pm.
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Never filled in my Profession Profile, and I think that's the default. Updated now, though (but not address, etc).
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Been in both places many times, and have to travel to Edmonchuk at the end of Feb. Really looking forward to that
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Your thermometer must be faulty. Get a new one. You will instantly feel warmer.
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There must be a translation to English of the mini-poem ("gruk") of the Danish poet Piet Hein ("Kumbel"), but I fail to find it. The orignial goes:
Den, som kun tar spøg for spøg
og alvor kun alvorligt,
han og hun har faktisk fattet
begge dele dårligt.
My on-the-fly direct translation (just to give you a rough idea; there must be a quality translation somewhere):
The one who consider a joke only as a joke
and seriousness only in a serious manner
really has understood both
of them rather poorly.
I read this story about a young girl who suffering from anorexia, thinking that she was a lot fatter than her friends. It turned out that in her bedroom, she had a huge mirror that was slightly curved. Once that mirror was replaced with a perfectly flat one, she begun seeing herself as rather thinner than her friends. That was the turning point in the curing of her anorexia. (I read about this case in a quite serious publication, so I don't think it is just an urban myth.)
More directly to your joke: In my childhood, one of the TV shows aired every advent for years was two comedians parodying kids making their own Christmas gifts to their parents. One of them was showing how the kids could use a cardboard for drawing a thermometer, with a scale giving the current temperature, and drawing the column up to a little above 21°C. If mom and dad think the living room is cold, they will look at the thermometer and say "I guess it is just me - it is more than twentyone degrees". Then they will not waste money on heating, and will have the money they save that way to spare, and will become sooo happy!
That episode is intended as a joke, though.
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I think your thermometer is upside down, I just checked and it got to 31C today.
hardest part of today's work was getting the beer down before it got above frosty.
the poms der englishers would be happy, anything over 5 minutes and that beer is warm.
after many otherwise intelligent sounding suggestions that achieved nothing the nice folks at Technet said the only solution was to low level format my hard disk then reinstall my signature. Sadly, this still didn't fix the issue!
modified 14-Jan-20 10:25am.
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Lousy ambiguous temperatures! Why can't it be -40°?
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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(And for being honest: I would guess that the majority of the audience didn't understand that joke!)
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lucky you.
Nothing beats a nice cold day.
I'd rather be phishing!
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Do they pay you for living there? and, if they do, is it really worth it?
Otherwise I'd move to a warmer place like sunny Cancún or beautiful Cozumel.
We are having a cold winter here in Guadlajra at 20°C and can't wait for spring!
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k5054 wrote: -34C (-29F)
Go with Kelvin. It'll look warm, in writing, and you won't have to deal with minus signs.
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Up in north Norway, some years ago (I think it was 1999), they had a long period of even colder weather; they were down to -51.2°C. People were joking that they didn't need street lights - the power lines were glowing enough to light up the roads. (Lots of Norwegian homes are heated by electricity; from newyear, oil furnances are no longer allowed for heating.) The authorities were seriously afraid that the power system would break down.
The sheriff of Kautokeino (a Sami village in the middle of the Finnmark plain) was interviewed on TV, and asked what whould happen in case of a power breakdown.
Well, he answered calmly, That would lead to significant reduction in the difference between indoor and outdoor temperature.
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