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you're going to hate my newest resolution to write all my control statements as haikus.
[Our] real strategic value, lies in [our] resistance to a symbolic reality that only ever invests us as subjects insofar as we invest ourselves in it, clinging to its governing fictions, its persistent sublimations, as reality itself - Edelman
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Polymorphism
Is about not knowing what
You're going to get.
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If while winter blooms
snow covered inheritance
dies then each witch loops
modified 8-Aug-19 0:16am.
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love this!
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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Wonderful to see a 5-7-5 original haiku here !
let me try:
if there is an itch
in the season of the witch:
scratch code's mother lode
«Where is the Life we have lost in living? Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?» T. S. Elliot
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honey the monster, codewitch wrote: going to hate my newest resolution
So far, your resolution has been too low for me to hate, too pixelated for me to love, but, your multiple personalities' moire patterns are, at times, entertaining 
I think you should have your own forum here on CP; what do you think about "Stream of Codeiousness" as a title ?
cheers, your admirer, Bill
«Where is the Life we have lost in living? Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?» T. S. Elliot
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We can petition Chris. I'll make sure you get some of the royalties.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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honey the monster, codewitch wrote: some of the royalties.
Can I be paid in drugs ?
«Where is the Life we have lost in living? Where is the wisdom we have lost in knowledge? Where is the knowledge we have lost in information?» T. S. Elliot
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naturally
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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There was a codewitch called Honey
Who thought post haikus was funny.
So she . . . (Actually, this isn't the soapbox, so never mind).
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There once was a man from budapest
who had something to get off his chest
he talked up a storm
until the early morn
and i'm sure you can work out the rest
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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Ah, it is with great joy I see I've turned you to the dark(er) side.
You can now code in limerick instead of haiku.
Now - with the road before you cleared, your next stop: CP-MVP.
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i just realized there's a typo in your sig and because of where it is it's so perfect i think it might be deliberate.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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i just realized there's a typo in your sig and because of where it is, it's just so perfect i think it might be deliberate.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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Alas, I will not take credit for cleverness and will fix the typo.
(you many wish to visit what passes for my website (one page, text only).
Best: search google for balboos and pick 'Balboos' Contemplations and such'.
I call this best because it helps, as the winner of the search, keeping it on top of the list.
Thanks - I shall now go and repair.
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So i have to ask because one of your quotes "a mitzvah is its own reward"
are you observant and jewish? I'm just curious because while I am not jewish (at least by rearing but i might be by blood) I am fascinated with judaism and very nearly converted.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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I do my best to not specify my actual religious beliefs - they I can happily admit to belief in a single deity. As a general rule, however, I prefer prayer of thanksgiving and not 'gimme' - as compared to most of the worlds people I have a lot.
As per that quote - a mitzvah (when looked up) is a command from the bible but, in common usage, it seems to have evolved to mean "a good deed". Taking this latter interpretation, there's a companion quote somewhere on the page:
"If we each did a little more than we had to, none of us would have to do nearly as much."
The possibility for the world to be a much better place is right there in front of us all - just waiting . . . and waiting . . . and waiting . . .
Occasionally, someone does do this sort of thing and it makes the news. How sad that doing the right thing is newsworthy!
Here's an insight on how I can compartmentalize my views:
Which came first - the chicken or the egg?
My religious partition would say the chicken - it was created. My scientist side says the egg came first, but it wasn't laid by a chicken, but by something very much like one.
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That's fair enough.
It's just i figured something out about The Torah. And the old testament that's derived from it. It's ancient sociology
For example, Ezekiel 16 in the OT describes the arc the united states is on currently.
It's incredible. I also figured out how they worked it out, and it's very clever, and it works by storytelling.
Anyway, I won't bore you with it, but that's why I asked. I hope I wasn't prying. I didn't intend to pry.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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honey the monster, codewitch wrote: I didn't intend to pry.
Not a concern.
You are free to ask or not; I am free to answer (or not).
honey the monster, codewitch wrote: The Torah. And the old testament that's derived from
Depending upon who's translation, the Torah is the Bible, not a derivation, to which were added prophets. Depending upon which prophets are added then determines it's flavor and audience.
One of the further clever things, per the story telling. The important people are not some image of perfection - they are real and flawed (some might say this adds credibility). All that, however, is brushed aside in that it's interpreted by people - and that can quickly turn the good into the bad - justifying agendas including slavery and genocide. No different, it seems, than what is done to other "volumes of sacred law"
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Interpretation is a feature in mythos**, not a bug. The imperfect transfer allows for adaptation, like imperfect gene transfer and imperfect gene expression does in evolutionary biology.
Mythos kept humanity going and societies together for longer than the alternative. That has to count for something, but more importantly, we don't have a mechanism outside the scientific method to evolve wisdom. And scientific inquiry isn't very good at that because it's geared at developing knowledge, which isn't the same thing. Sometimes wisdom is a byproduct but it's not the goal.
The greatest sin the west ever committed against itself was killing oral storytelling with the written word.
** many people confuse mythos with fiction. It's not necessarily. It's simply a way of transferring wisdom, knowledge, ideas, and history through storytelling. I just thought I'd make that clear lest any reader think I'm calling scripture categorically false here. That's not the case at all.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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Adding, I say derived from because the stories are divvied out differently - where the chapters divide, and also the OT lacks a lot of the stuff in the torah. It is essentially a reorganized subset of the torah, which is why i call it a derivation of it.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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honey the monster, codewitch wrote: and also the OT lacks a lot of the stuff in the torah. It is essentially a reorganized subset of the torah, which is why i call it a derivation of it.
Absolutely wrong ![^]*
The Torah "The Five Books of Moses" are the beginning chapters of the bible. Genesis, Exodus, &etc; ending with the death of Moses. It is, if you look with some care, occasionally anachronistic.
This is followed by prophets (not part the Torah). The chapters (into the five books) is a later creation for book-binders, perhaps - such divisions do not exist in a Torah scroll.
* I have to mitigate this with the concept that inconvenient parts may have been left out of the countless christian translations. Agendas are agendas.
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First of all, I don't believe it conveys everything if it's not in the Hebrew it was written in because the hebrew alphabet also conveys information in the letters.
You can't translate that.
So that's part of it.
And yes the books are there, but the suffering servant - isaiah 53 doesn't even exist as it's own story in the torah - it's part of the larger story that precedes it. the dividing line there exists in the OT but not in the torah.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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All those chapters and versus are of christian origin - they are not in the torah.
Now saying that translation of it from Hebrew to something else loses something is not a fair argument.
For that matter, you could buy the book in Hebrew (and Aramaic) for that. I've seen an orthodox Jewish version of the bible, translated into English - it's loaded, both in English and Hebrew (and I was told, Aramaic for this scholar Rashi) with commentary and interpretations. At least in the English, they'll offer alternative interpretations according to different scholars. And, of course, footnotes. I think the thing would be 1/3 it's size if they left that stuff out.
Like stories I read from this author "Sholem Aleichem" - they were written in Yiddish. I was either told or it was in the foreword of one of the books that if it took five pages in Yiddish it would take fifteen to translate it to English (an example of that nuance you spoke of). That, I cannot deny. But don't confuse the christian views and divisions and translation with the "real thing".
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you misunderstand me. i'm not talking about simply translation issues. I'm talking about the fact that the hebrew alphabet's letters are also words. The OT has an entire subtext to it in the hebrew that cannot be translated to another language because you lose those letters and their relationships to one another in the texts.
This isn't about translation and interpretation. It's about stripping a whole submeaning from the texts. A meaning a lot of the metaphysics would rely on.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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