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It's official, I hate Windows 10.
Unrelated to my disdain for Win10, it took six hours to download WoW. Just... wow.
I've never seen a laptop that comes with nagware before... It's horrendous. And intrusive.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Most laptop do, sadly. W10 is the chief nagware in existance, in fact I will cling to my W7 as long as it is possible.
GCS d--(d+) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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And then throw it out entirely. Goodbye Mickeysoft.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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Can't. Gaming, VisualStudio and support for a lot of extra activities (wife and parents mostly) means that I'm "stuck" with Windows. Given my experience with Linux on Desktop, any M$ t**d remains better than the best *nix alternative.
I fought against it for 7 years, I'm all out of patience and my spare time gets more and more valuable, for sure more valuable than fighting against half baked "software" and half compatible drivers.
GCS d--(d+) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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As long as you have the time for Mickeysoft's bright ideas...
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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Disabling them is easy enough, for now  also a LinuxBox used for firewalling connections and a couple of eye patches will do the job quite rapidly.
When M$ will become harder to circumvent than *nix to make it work, it will be an easy switch. But not today.
GCS d--(d+) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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den2k88 wrote: Disabling them is easy enough
'Fraid not, because they're making it harder to avoid their stupid ideas.
E.g. the f***ing ridiculous disappearing scrollbars thing used to have an option to disable it in the Godawful settings app, but, with the latest update, you can't even disable it with a registry hack.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Mark_Wallace wrote: the f***ing ridiculous disappearing scrollbars
What retard thought that would be a good idea?
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity -
RAH
I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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Mycroft Holmes wrote: What retard thought that would be a good idea?
The same bunch of idiots who came up with the effluent interface, baby blocks, full-screen everything, etc.
... Many of whom have transferred to VS and are now looking to make the same kind of "improvements" in VS.
If you read the (paid) ms fanbois sites, they talk about how scrollbars are "a distraction", so making them disappear is a *great idea*!
But that's the mentality that's been running ms development, for the last ten years -- scrollbars that sit there and do nothing but be available are a distraction, but knowing where the f*** you are in a file when you can't see the scrollbar without physical effort is not.
It's the mentality of morons who are only able to write memos of six lines or less.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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My experience with Win10 is mostly limited to versions optimized for embedded systems (no Cortana, no MS store and so on). I never noticed the disappearing scrollbars - I stick to win7 for a bunch of reasons.
GCS d--(d+) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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Suggestion: Only play online games and thus only a browser comparability dependency.
Better still - get rid of the kids games and Man-Up to Dungeon Crawl[^].
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Many older people play WoW for the social side of the game, not for the actual game action. They form guilds with voice chat, organise raffles and events, it's very positive for them.
modified 20-Oct-19 21:02pm.
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As a follower of Trog, I just like to kill things. Lots of things. Never mind magic - I want to just plain chop them up (kills are often edible, too!).
Social interaction? Just bait to bring food closer . . .
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Whatever makes you happy. For her though a nice comfy headset to chat with her online friends would be more important.
I once stumbled by mistake into such a guild. Left after a couple of weeks, but they were really nice.
modified 20-Oct-19 21:02pm.
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Download W10 installation image took you 6 hours? Sounds impossible - the size of a full ISO is less then 4GB...
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
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No, the game World of Warcraft - the download took 6 hours.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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 I need to read things more carefully...
However 40GB in six hours is not that impossible, if you are on a slower line... With 20Mbps it is over 4 hours (ADSL2+ has 24Mbps)...
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge". Stephen Hawking, 1942- 2018
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I'd love to be able to do 40GB in 6 hours. This is closer to a full weekend for me.
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WoW download is around 40GB, judging from t'interwebs: How big is the Download? - World of Warcraft Forums[^]
Then it expands to 80~90 GB when installed.
So if her / your connection is slowish, or the WoW server she downloads from is busy ... that's a "significant" download size, whatever way you look at it. My internet is 40Mb/sec, so that's ~4MBps, which would be 166 minutes if the connection is clear of other users. It wouldn't take much to push that D/L over 5 or 6 hours during "busy periods".
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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The download size last night was 58GB.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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That's a BIG download! Even VS is smaller ... just 
Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640
Never throw anything away, Griff
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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That is one comparison he'll understand.
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Well, VS2017 is a 25GB download.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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And when you select all the add-ons. 
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Elder Scrolls Online is 98 GB of download.
GCS d--(d+) s-/++ a C++++ U+++ P- L+@ E-- W++ N+ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t+ 5? X R+++ tv-- b+(+++) DI+++ D++ G e++ h--- r+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
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