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Eddy Vluggen wrote: My "desktop" is a small 65watt box without moving parts; no fan, no sounds, by using an i3 laptop-cpu.
In my case, the heavy lifting (VM host) is done by a beefy tower system sitting in another room, and I use a puny Intel NUC on my desk (quiet, takes even less power than your 65W laptop, generates no heat) to remote into individual VMs. Although any old laptop would also do, in the real "dumb terminal" sense.
The only thing that was important to me, for the system sitting on my desk, is screen real-estate - the NUC can drive a 4K monitor, and I also have two additional 1080p monitors running off of USB3-to-VGA adapters.
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I'd opt for a gaming laptop, fully loaded with SSD + external HDD, & 32gig memory - if possible.
Even an used Dell mobile workstation with SSD & 32 gig memory would definitely fit the bill with great performance.
I'm completely done with Desktops. Fiddling with SMPS ,UPS ,Motherboard& HDD problems.
It's been a great journey with pure-notebook set up (with dock-stations)
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Will look around to see if I can find something that will work for me. Thanks for the suggestion.
Have a great day.
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After all this talk about hardware, I went ahead and ordered a 500gb PCIx nVME SSD and an adapter (that holds two nVME drives) for my desktop so I can put my VMs on it.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Always happens when people talking about hardware that others go I want to buy some too . If you don't mind which brand do you select for the PCI nvME SSD as I'm reading up on those and tempted to get one.
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Samsung - there were others that were less expensive, but most of those ship from China and take MONTHS to arrive.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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well a bit late to the party but my 2 cents worth.
graphics card: nah, I've just built a new machine very similar (except mines intel) and I don't miss the graphics card at all, even doing CAD. Not missed at all.
m2 drive they run hot, and cause the chipset to run really hot, so
1. more case cooling - but gets weird coz too much cooling can be as bad too
2. skip the m2 [for now] ??? well seriously you will not notice the difference in your usage
boot time difference on a SATA ssd vs m2: less than a second. And once booted: difference is none you will ever notice (except in SOME really hard core games.) m2 will likely reduce the life of your mobo, and during heavy compiles (on really large projects) may even cause thermal shutdowns unless you really have the cooling well figured out.
skip the spinner, throw in a couple of 1TB SSD's (for SSD 1TB are the best gb/$ at the moment.)
In a year or so you will see m2 daughter boards (with better cooling in mind) - already some coming out right now but expensive/proprietary - early days.
could always fit a m2 later once they have the cooling properly figured out. (also predictions that SSD prices will drop by midyear plus m2 drives will get better capacity too.)
Oh, next seriously think about installing linux and running windows in VM(s)
- can run multiple copies, can take/rollback to snapshots, totally separate the dev env from testing... and linux makes good use of powerful hardware, windows not so much.
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Thank you for taking the time to respond.
Very useful information to consider before my final selection of parts as still tweaking and verifying everything should work together before I pull the trigger on my purchases.
I have thought about a linux OS just despite my username I haven't played with linux in a while and not sure which OS would be a good one to try. I have to look up John's posts as I know he's been sharing some tips about his migration to linux from Windows.
Again thank you and have a great day.
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Ubuntu or Mint (based on Ubuntu, but with a less traumatic UI change for long-time Windows users). If you want something lighter weight, use Lubuntu, but your system specs don't really require a lighter distro.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010 ----- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010 ----- When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Thanks I will research the ones you mentioned.
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Quick note: NewEgg has the ASUS ROG Strix B450-F on a 48 hour sale (40 hrs left) for $109.99
Edit: promo code: EMCERSP22 in case you don't see it
specs are very similar, Strix has dual m2 (vs single), slightly better sound, but what I like most is it has HDMI 2.0 + DP versus HDMI + DVI-D
- display port is far more common in monitors = more choices (esp if going dual screens)
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Thank you so much for sharing I'll take a look at it right now.
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Personally I would stick with Intel chipset/cpu if you are going to be using VMWare.
Agree with others re SDD, I would have a 250GB for your main boot/OS, a second 250GB for your VM boot/OS and then a pair of mirrored 1-2TB mechanical drives for data storage (both for real and VMs).
As said elsewhere, no need for a graphics card unless you want to go for more than two monitors - an Asus H270 has dual video out already.
An Intel network card for the VMs would also make life a lot simpler.
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Thank you so much for the advice.
Have a great day.
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I’d go for a 1tb SSD over the 10k rpm spinner. Cheaper and faster. I used AMD cpus/chipsets for years but switched to intel CPUs/chipsets about five years ago. Kept running into situations where AMD didn’t support this or that new feature, whereas just about everything is support on Intel platform. If you go Intel, get an “H” motherboard. The main thing the “X” motherboards support (over H) is overclocking. If you’re not gaming, you probably don’t need it. And PCIe x4 SSD is definitely the way to go for your system drive.
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Thanks and I did swap the rpm spinner for another SSD.
Have a great day.
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Thanks for the link and I did adjust the main drive to a larger size.
Have a great day.
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Nice case I got something a little bigger since I have ham hocks for hands and need room to plug stuff in.
Thanks and have a great day.
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Nice system specs thanks for sharing gives me some ideas.
Have a great day.
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NP. The machine I built needed to be somewhat portable. Many years ago, I used Clevo/Sager based laptops for my needs, but I needed something with a little more power now, and the KB/Monitor/Mouse was available wherever I needed to set up, so a portable desktop works with those needs.
Good luck
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I'm playing my way through DOOM, and I'm trying to get all the challenges. Until the third level, when I have to Curb Stomp (jump on the heads of) monsters to get one. Does it work? No. Try, try, try. Fail, fail, fail. Swear. Reload. Try, try, try. Fail, ... you get the idea.
Until I relent, and search for help. And lo! Others have the same difficulty!
Wrong sodding monster. "Possessed Soldier" is not the same as "Possessed". Go, Griff you idiot - stomp some heads!
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Never throw anything away, Griff
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