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alang_icon wrote: I have seen some appalling stuff written in it
You have a language that you haven't seen appalling stuff written in?
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Yes - APL. That could just be because I wouldn't know what appalling APL code looks like (or perhaps ALL APL looks appalling)
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Excellent troll post!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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A post is not the same as support. VB6 has not been supported for a long time now. Anyone who still uses it, deserves it
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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I think support in this case means Microsoft tests the old code against new Windows versions. Don't know what they would do if it didn't work. Still, it is an excellent RAD language (Runaway After Deployment).
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alang_icon wrote: I think support in this case means Microsoft tests the old code against new Windows versions. No, it doesn't, and no you don't.
VB6 is a dead language, and has never been excellent.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: VB6 is a dead language, and has never been excellent
<shock and="" horror="">
You take that back!!
cheers
Chris Maunder
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Aight, then, it is "resting".
Monty Python - Dead Parrot - YouTube[^]
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
"If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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Pining for the fjords, I assume?
cheers
Chris Maunder
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alang_icon wrote: it is an excellent RAD language (Runaway After Deployment Amid Development ). FTFY!
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VB6? Was that the one that came with a chisel and a tablet of stone for an IDE?
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain
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I'm not positive that the chisel had been developed yet. VB6 wasn't up to that job.
"Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity."
- Hanlon's Razor
modified 30-Jul-18 11:32am.
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Nathan Minier wrote: I'm not positive that the chisel had bee developed yet.
That's right. Back then you were expected to use your forehead against that stone tablet instead.
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People bash things they do not understand. I wrote an application in VB6 that interfaces with Avaya phone systems and also had instant messaging and file sharing. It worked great and might even still be in use.
Just because you don't have the most expensive tool does not mean you can't build something beautiful.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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Most people bash VB6 programmers rather than the language because back when it was popular, it was so easy to get started with that it attracted a lot of relatively unskilled programmers. Also, those days, C and C++ were considered the de-facto real programming language on Windows. And anyone not doing in-code memory management was considered a dummy. Ironic that both VB6 and C++ got eliminated by memory-managed language frameworks like C#, JS, and VB.NET
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Quote: Just because you don't have the most expensive tool does not mean you can't build something beautiful.
VB6 was expensive.
VB.NET is mostly free.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder
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CHill60 wrote: VB6 was expensive. How so? It was free when I was using it, as I recall.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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VB6 was never free as far as I can remember. You could either buy it as part of Visual Studio (including VC++) or you could buy it standalone (not sure if that was earlier versions though).
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Only the hooky versions were free
You had to buy a licence for the IDE - per user OR corporate
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CHill60 wrote: VB6 was expensive
What? I got the entire VS 6.0 for $188 (student price) back in '99...fantastic ROI...paid for itself the first week!
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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I can see how large legacy VB6 code-bases would continue to be retained as-is, because re-writing it into a managed framework is a huge ask. What I don't get it why new code would ever get written in VB6, with the lack of support, limited availability of engineers who've used it, etc.
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^^ What Nish said
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The new VB6 code happens when those large legacy apps need minor updates or changes. At any given point, it's a lot less work to add a bit of code to the existing application than to do a re-write. And so new VB6 code continues to be written, year after year.
I wouldn't be surprised if there's some poor soul in 2035 who is still plugging away making updates and additions to a legacy VB6 app. Although at that point, such a person might be able to charge some hefty consulting rates for working in VB6. So perhaps this person would more more of a tortured soul than a poor soul...
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A tortured soul billing $300/hour sounds pretty doable to me.
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If VB6 is truly unsupported at this point, then you just need one serious-enough exploit in the runtime to end its use.
OTOH:
- See Windows XP
- You'd hope those systems still in production and relying on it aren't connected to the internet in any way, shape or form - mitigating that problem
- Aren't store apps supposed to be running in a completely sandboxed environment?
OTOH (yeah, that'd be a third hand I guess):
- Despite all this, I have no doubt there's plenty of VB6 exploits being abused right now, and will continue for the foreseeable future
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