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So the justification of me being unprofessional is that I was asked to write a confluence guide for new starters and I gave dispassionate advice on how to convince the IT dept to let you have SQL Server (they told me it's server software for a month) and how to stay busy waiting for them to help you
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Christian Graus wrote: how to stay busy waiting for them to help you
Browsing job sites.
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No appreciation for sarcasm, innuendo, puns, jokes, plays on words, history. The homogenizing of civilization. Having a conversation where "AI" is the mediator is exhausting. You have to "explain" everything until it "gets" it (or not) in order to comply with (its) "Guidelines".
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
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What gave you to understand that it would be otherwise? Always remember, the key word is "artificial".
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The dumbing down isn't just bad ... it's spectacular. And I have to keep listening to that it's a "trillion dollar industry".
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
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Gerry Schmitz wrote: And I have to keep listening to that it's a "trillion dollar industry". A fool and his money ...
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Tsk tsk...
The same could be said about automobiles circa 1900. Or personal computers circa 1980. Or the web circa 1993.
The potential of AI is undeniably profound.
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fgs1963 wrote: The potential of AI is undeniably profound. Well that does not really mean anything. Yes AI has potential, but it is far too early to say whether that will be good or bad for the world.
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Richard MacCutchan wrote: it is far too early to say whether that will be good or bad for the world. Agreed, in fact the same can still be said of the 3 examples I provided.
I just find developers whining about the current state of AI as equally ridiculous as those touting AI as the answer to everything.
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fgs1963 wrote: developers whining about the current state of AI When have I done that?
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Not you - the original post. And others...
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Re: "whining". You seems easily "satisfied".
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
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Bad.
The systems will continue to spew untruths and humans will continue to be too lazy to fact-check the misinformation.
Such is my prognostication.
Time is the differentiation of eternity devised by man to measure the passage of human events.
- Manly P. Hall
Mark
Just another cog in the wheel
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Mark Starr wrote: The systems will continue to spew untruths and humans will continue to be too lazy to fact-check the misinformation.
Errr...except the following is true right now
'Humans will continue to spew untruths and other humans will continue to be too lazy to fact-check the misinformation.'
So not really that much change.
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fgs1963 wrote: The potential of AI is undeniably profound.
True. As was recognized at least in the 1950s.
However "AI" as it is currently used is a marketing term. It has no real comparison to what was intended by the phrase "Artificial Intelligence" as it was used up to the point in the early 2000s.
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jschell wrote: However "AI" as it is currently used is a marketing term. True, at least 98.796% of the time (IMHO). But... there are some highly funded groups working on the real deal. Combine that with the "potential" of quantum computing and we may be on the cusp of a societal sea change.
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fgs1963 wrote: there are some highly funded groups working on the real deal
All of that has been true since the 1960s though.
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There are orders of magnitude more software developers today than the 60s. There are orders of magnitude more money being committed to AI development today than the 60s. Average people carry vastly more computer power around in their pockets than existed (globally) in the 60s. Massive troves of digitized data sets exist today that didn't exist in the 60s. There is huge bandwidth available today that lets groups around the globe collaborate in real time that didn't exist in the 60s.
Lets not compare software development of the past to software development today... it is farcical.
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"A million monkeys and a million typewriters" ... is what it is.
"Before entering on an understanding, I have meditated for a long time, and have foreseen what might happen. It is not genius which reveals to me suddenly, secretly, what I have to say or to do in a circumstance unexpected by other people; it is reflection, it is meditation." - Napoleon I
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Maybe, but they still wrote Shakespeare.
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fgs1963 wrote: There are orders of magnitude more software developers today than the 60s. There are orders of magnitude more money being committed to AI development today than the 60s.
I believe that there is far more money and resources being used to search for Extraterrestrials too.
fgs1963 wrote: Lets not compare software development of the past to software development today... it is farcical
And yet there is still nothing even close to the actual meaning of Artificial Intelligence.
Perhaps far more claims that it is the same though.
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jschell wrote: And yet there is still nothing even close to the actual meaning of Artificial Intelligence. How do you possibly know what is or isn't being done in the R&D labs at IBM, Microsoft, Google, Apple, Oracle, etc...? How do you possibly know what is or isn't being done in classified government research labs in the US, UK, China, Russia, etc...?
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Yeah, you are right: If you really want something to be true, and there is no evidence of it, you can claim that it still is true somewhere behind closed doors. Then it probably is true. At least for you.
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Nice strawman but it applies equally well to AI luddites who claim to know the status of 100's of projects that they are not a part of (or even qualified to be a part of).
I'm truly shocked by how backward thinking so many "software developers" here at CP are. The incessant whining about the state of AI is sad.
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