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After a heavy tex-mex meal the only thing you'll be out putting this afternoon is methane.
Everyone has a photographic memory; some just don't have film. Steven Wright
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Free trip to the space station when he lights a match. Afterburner.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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Slacker007 wrote: tortas No question. A proper torta is a thing of beauty.
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I am a big fan of real Mexican food too and definitely not the Tex-Mex stuff. Thankfully, I have found a couple of really good places around here. A few tacos and a good habanero sauce are my favorites. Preferably with a good cerveza or two.
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Still the only thing I miss about Mexico today is the street tacos.
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Pom Pey wrote: is the street tacos. So good.
Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it.
Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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Flexible fake - not unknown in horrible surroundings (9)
(To counter the usual curse - I think that this one is extremely difficult!)
98.4% of statistics are made up on the spot.
modified 20-Mar-18 6:47am.
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Versatile
vile (horrible) surrounding ersatz (fake - without the unknown z)
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Well done, sir!
I did genuinely think that that one would cause problems. Moral of the story? Never try to guess how hard or easy your clue might be.
98.4% of statistics are made up on the spot.
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It wasn't that easy! I was quite pleased at having got it
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Now I want to see how they show why their little monster did what it did, how it will react in other situations and how to 'cure' it from its delusions.
The AI fans always forget that even the dumbest human driver has a few million years of evolution behind him. How can they think to play better in the same league with x hours of training and 'testing'?
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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They haven't released the video footage, but the reports say it was her fault - she walked out in front of it so close than nothing could have prevented the collision, human or robotic driver: Tempe police chief: Uber 'likely' not at fault in fatal self-driving car crash - Business Insider[^]
And you can be sure that there is more telemetry and recorded info in this accident than in any previous death-by-driving case, with the possible exception of Ayrton Senna...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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That may be. There are certainly hopeless situations. Still, no telemetry in the world is going to tell us why the AI did or did not do something. Would you like to have to make any guarantees for the behavior of your contraption? They don't have to become Terminators to be dangerous.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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CodeWraith wrote: Would you like to have to make any guarantees for the behavior of your contraption?
Do you know what the "emergency brake" used to be for? Do you why it is now the "parking brake" instead?
Do you know what anti-lock brakes are for? Do you know why they are safer, for most people, than versus the alternative, for most people, in the past?
What about when cars will not stop? This happens apparently more than I thought because I found the following looking for the other example that I know exists.
Driver was unable to stop or slow down his car[^]
So perhaps you don't drive at all, but everyone else already relies on the behavior of their "contraption".
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OriginalGriff wrote: nothing could have prevented the collision, human or robotic driver
Yeah well I would dispute that, we've all been in that situation driving along where nobody is in front of you but they are near enough that you keep your eyes open - people walking close to the edge of the road, kids playing football in front of their house, dog walkers with the dog jumping about ...
If this woman "walked out in front of it so close than nothing could have prevented the collision" seems likely she was already close to the edge of the road, most humans would (1) gently nudge the car away from that lane/road edge before reaching (I'm sure in Az the lanes are wide enough), and (2) pay extra attention to watch for change of direction.
There's more to driving then what does happen, but being ready for what else can happen - yes some things are completely unexpected but where you can anticipate these possibilities you can and should be prepared. You see a drunk on the road do you pass within inches or wait till a nice big gap appears...
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You are describing a good human driver, what about the many deaths daily caused by detracted, dangerous drivers.
By the time this technology makes it to the mainstream, all the bugs will be sorted out and the roads will be a far safer place, current dangerous and careless driving offenses will no longer exist.
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KennethKennedy wrote: By the time this technology makes it to the mainstream, all the bugs will be sorted Really? How will they do that? How do you unit test the AI? How do you prove that your AI can deal with any circumstances a very complex world throws at it?
Look at how miserably we fail at testing normal code made up of simple, limited functions. From where do you take the optimism that this will miraculously work for something as complex as an AI?
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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CodeWraith wrote: Really? How will they do that? How do you unit test the AI? How do you prove that your AI can deal with any circumstances a very complex world throws at it?
How do we do it with human drivers, my friend? We don't, we train him or her ... and pray.
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Tomaž Štih wrote: We don't, we train him or her ... and pray. That's not true. At least around here they make sure that you are equipped with the abilities of a few hundred million years of evolution before they even let you near a car with a driving instructor. Sure beats training a thing that has no idea what it is doing - or why it is supposed to do it. Did they really have to teach you how to look around and make sense of what you see?
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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That didn't help us with chess and go. In a battle between engineering and the evolution -- in short term my bet is on evolution, and in long term on engineering.
Resistance is futile, robots will assimilate you AND your cat.
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Evolution doesn't have anything to do with the ability of braking in time when a pedestrian jumps in your way in unexpected places while you're controlling a 1500kg mobile object at 38 mph. Or pretty much any other situation that we have to deal with when controlling a car. If anything, the instincts that evolution got us will make us behave inappropriately.
If anything, most of evolution taught us that it's best to run over any pedestrian who's stupid enough to run into our path - one less competitor on our hunt for food! In that respect, most autonomous systems are already better than that before they even start training!
GOTOs are a bit like wire coat hangers: they tend to breed in the darkness, such that where there once were few, eventually there are many, and the program's architecture collapses beneath them. (Fran Poretto)
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Stefan_Lang wrote: Evolution doesn't have anything to do with the ability of braking in time when a pedestrian jumps in your way Indeed? So you needed someone to teach you how to detect the pedestrian jumping your way? You did not have a naturally evolved image processing system (among other things) in that grey matter between your ears? And a neural net that is by orders of magnitude smaller and with only a tiny fraction of the training time (no matter how you measure it) will do the job better?
I wish I could share your optimism.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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I did also say at 38 mph. Typically a human moving at 38 mph through pretty much all of evolution was only seeing one thing, and that is the ground he was about to hit - not the kind of stuff going into the genes except into the genes of the onlookers. If evolution taught us anything it is that moving at 38 mph is fatal.
Now, of course, if your forefathers were running through the jungle they certainly did learn to react to a creature moving into their path. But, depending on the number of claws and teeth (or raised clubs) of that creature, stopping might not have been the preferred type of reaction.
I'm not saying that this is not an important bit of information when deciding that you need to slow down when something moves into your path, but it's also so much different from the evolutionary training, that the lesson learned can be pretty much reduced to saying that: if something moves into your path, slow down. And that is trivial to learn for any autonomous system, no matter how small.
In case of the accident, this raises the question why the cars sensors did not detect the woman, or identify it as an actual obstacle. Apparently the driver didn't either, or at least not in time, and his millions of years of evolution didn't help him in any way there. But the car's systems should have been able to both detect the woman (using the LiDAR sensors) and react to it as well (thanks to super-human reaction times). The investigation should focus on these questions.
GOTOs are a bit like wire coat hangers: they tend to breed in the darkness, such that where there once were few, eventually there are many, and the program's architecture collapses beneath them. (Fran Poretto)
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