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Interesting story.
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As an electronic engineer I welcome you to this world! There is a proverb in German about measurements "Wer misst misst Mist". My freehand translation: If you measure you measure bullshit. There are so many factors affecting your result and you already realized: A breadboard circuit doesn't represent the ideal world of Ohms Law! Resistors have tolerances (do you know the exact value?), your meter has tolerances, your probe has resistance, your wires etc. And you are only in the low DC voltage area! The real fun starts with high frequency, where every cable, every socket etc is a combination of capacitor, induction and resistor.
I suggest you measure the voltage drop over the resistor and then calculate your current. Also try to use a regulated power supply or similar that gives you a constant current. With a 3V battery, your won't have a lot of fun for long and your measurements will be different every time. There are also online circuit simulators (https://www.circuitlab.com/) and SPICE (Online Circuit Simulator with SPICE). SPICE is around for a long time and open source.
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Thanks very much for your feedback. I really appreciate it and agree with all of it.
Especially...
hug.login wrote: If you measure you measure bullshit.
I kind of figured that was what I was doing.
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Hi, The picture on your electronics stack exchange post shows that you are using a solderless breadboard. This is very likely contributing significantly to your "phantom" resistance. I count at least 6 breadboard connections in the picture any one of which could contribute several ohms if you are unlucky!
The contacts in these things are only spring loaded so any oxidisation on the contacts or the wires will contribute additional series resistance.
Make sure that all the wire ends, including the resistor are freshly cleaned and I would also try to remove some of the oxidation from the breadboard contacts by inserting and removing each wire several times.
Better still, take the breadboard out completely and solder the battery and one end of the resistor directly together. Even then you will still have spring loaded connections from the crocodile clips on the ends of the meter leads.
I understand that you are trying to produce something that is reproducible by people without an electronics workshop, but for you tests I would also try to eliminate the battery by using a bench power supply so you can eliminate voltage droop.
Graham
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Excellent advice!
I hate breadboard - but nowhere near as much as I hate wirewrap ...
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OriginalGriff wrote: but nowhere near as much as I hate wirewrap Just when I hoped you would wrap up my new boards for me...
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.
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Oh I do it from time to time - but I don't like it. The amount of time you spend chasing bad contacts because you wiggled it slightly...
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Great info and I really appreciate it. Thanks very much.
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You can't monitor a system without affecting its behavior.
I'm glad I don't do electronics (my father did).
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: You can't monitor a system without affecting its behavior. So true.
Luke (PiebadConsult), come to the dark side.
Electronics and open h/w is so amazing now. So much fun. You must get started.
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One other suggestion: I'd be careful putting any multimeter in series to measure current. It's very easy to blow your meter. Yes, I know they have fuses, never the less, caution. Years ago I worked with a seriously overpowered EE. This guy was chasing a "spurious" signal in his control circuit. In attempts to isolate things, he had done all sorts of things to the scope probes, no ground wires, etc.
When he noticed the insulation dripping off the probe wires, it was too late.
At this point, I think he said something like "elephant it" and added a resistor.
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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The movie "Black Panther" had two white actors: Andy Serkis and Martin Freeman, who also played Gollum and Bilbo Baggins in "The Hobbit" trilogy.
Does that make them the Tolkien white guys? Hmmmmm ....
Sorry - I'll get me coat.
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you, just filling in the small parts
Signature ready for installation. Please Reboot now.
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Yes, he played Bilbo, it's written all over him
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Griff, if you are going to post stuff like this, PLEASE include a "you might want to swallow your coffee first"....
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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RIP
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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Hey man, I never failed a drugs test too.
Kudos to him.
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After watching Bannister break the 4 minute barrier (B&W 8 inch 405 line TV), I decided I had to run a mile.
Fortunately, I lived alongside a section of the A13 that had 'Lay-by Half a Mile Ahead' road signs.
So, I ran along the footpath from the nearside sign to the opposite side sign.
Strange kid.
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Is a fail positive or negative?
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Yes, rather confusing to "not fail a drugs test". So he passed the drugs test?
Let me confuse it more; we know from pregnancy-tests that a reaction (positive) means you're fooked, and a non-reaction (negative) equals freedom. That must mean that if you "pass" a alcohol or drug-test by getting a reaction (positive) and a fail if you don't get a reaction (negative).
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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The 'positive' is always what you are testing for. A drugs test is testing for drugs, therefore finding them would be a 'positive' result.
It will, however, have a negative result on one's sports career.
Ad astra - both ways!
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So, if you not fail a drugs test, you took drugs?
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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