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Why, you're selling them?
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Many moons ago, to help a friend out with a problem, I had to attach an old peripheral to my PC. My problem was that I couldn't find the COM port for plugging it in. I searched everywhere, but with no success. The absence of COM ports may not be remarkable (especially not today); more remarkable is that the PC was almost 3 years old at the time, and in those 3 years I had never noticed that the COM was missing. So maybe the PC manufacturer was right, concluding that COM is obsolete.
(Later, I discovered that the mainboard actually was equipped with a COM header. I even found an old bracket with both COM and LPT sockets and cables/plugs that fit right onto the headers. That was long after we had solved my friend's problem in other ways.)
My basement is full of old equipment that I keep as a miniature computer museum. I'd sure like to be able to demonstrate it in operation. But for a lot of it, I no longer have an operational PC with the right interface. Maybe I was using a dedicated interface card, but I have operational PC with a matching bus.
In one case (an SPDIF card with both input and output), the manufacturer switched into software-only, low level drivers for other manufacturer's HW - but dropped drivers for their own old HW! So when I updated to WinXP, I lost that card (even though it would still fit on my mainboard).
External media is another thing: I've got floppy disks in four sizes (counting different densities makes it 9). Tape cassettes in four formats. A couple removable hard disk formats. I have operational readers for none of them. I've got documents, videos, sound files and digital photos in several dozen different formats that I may or may not have a reader for. It is like the COM port: I really haven't looked for it for a while.
Such is life, and it is getting sucher and sucher.
CD/DVDs are obsolete; more and more music/movies are unavailable in physical formats. Some of my friends more or less forced me to enable the WiFi in my home - I prefer cabled network, but they couldn't access that from their smartphones and tablets (and, being modern people, they would get mentally sick if they had to abstain from online media for more than a few minutes).
Most devices still have USB ports, though. We'll have to cross our fingers that there won't be a 'D' plug for a few year (I've been through 6 different device-side USB plugs prior to the C plug!). You can buy Ethernet interfaces, CD/DVD readers, 3.5" floppy readers (at least you could - I've got one), sound cards, COM and LPT adapters, MIDI adapters, all-in-one readers for a dozen different memory card formats, and almost anything else you can think of, all with USB interfaces. The only disadvantage is that your (physical) desktop more and more resembles a bowl of spaghetti.
To be honest: If we really could throw out everything from COM/LPT to HDMI, for everything from modems through printers, disks, cameras and displays, and replace it with USB4, I would welcome it! But it won't happen. Major companies will add twists and quirks to ensure that equipment from competing manufacturers won't work with theirs. Academics will argue that swapping the meaning of two bits will improve performance by 0.01%, and this must be adopted even though incompatible (ref. HDLC/SDLC/Tannenbaum). The OSS communities will make their own version to prove that they can do better than any of the six biggest monopolists competing in the field
Today, it looks as if WiFi is The One and Only Solution. (Well, it is actually something like 6 or 8 alternate solutions, but just like USB, quite different alternate technologies are packed under a single hood with a single name, for marketing purposes.) Others will pop up. WiFi won't be The One any more than USB4 will.
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trønderen wrote: Such is life, and it is getting sucher and sucher.
Too true! And just to let you know, I intend to remember (and purloin) your words.
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Quote: I've got floppy disks in four sizes (counting different densities makes it 9). Tape cassettes in four formats.
Tapes. Impressive.
I've got audio tapes, for the C64, filled with games, including (IIRC) River Raid and Boulder Dash. Too bad that neither the computer, nor the power brick it came with, work anymore. Pretty certain the tape driver still works, but impossible to tell.
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Heh, that brought back memories. I have my VIC-20 and tape drive in a box in the attic. The last time I had it out was 2009, but I was a little amazed to find it still worked then! I was able to read at least some of the stuff on those old tapes. I actually sold my first commercial software for the VIC and the C64 back in the early 80s. "Alarmex" it was called, and was kind of a toy alarm system, a combination of software and hardware that plugged into the joystick port, which I hand-assembled in my kitchen. I ultimately sold 1000 copies of it, wholesale through Protecto Enterprises.
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What is an Attic ?
I would ask where you live but that is being nosey !
I have no basement because you can not dig in the mountains of Arizona
Come to think of it never seen a basement in Phoenix
Perhaps @PIEBALDconsult will comment
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Storage space between the ceiling and roof. Yeah, I used to live in Texas, and no basements where I was there, either. I'm in Illinois now and actually have an attic and a basement, which isn't necessarily a good thing, because it's just more space to accumulate junk. I guess like my old VIC-20!
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Digging holes in the desert is difficult due to caliche.
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trønderen wrote: Today, it looks as if WiFi is The One and Only Solution.
I've seen software where the manufacturer specifically says not to use wi-fi, only to use wired ethernet, preferably through a built in adapter, so one hopes that the option is still available for some time.
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Um... guess what... optical drives and RJ45s are soooooo yesterday.
Jeremy Falcon
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But I bought two new CDs on Saturday, and the fee for my fiber connection is due today! What should I do???
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Join the rest of us and sell your soul to big tech. Resistance is futile.
Jeremy Falcon
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How old was the laptop you replaced?
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It was purchased in 2019, but was an identical replacement for a much older HP Pavillion of the same design.
Will Rogers never met me.
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Boy you have been under a rock for a bit. There haven't been any cd drives for about a decade and Ethernet ports disappeared about 5 years ago. I know because I run a repair shop and have external cd drives and usb Ethernet ports at the ready for when it is necessary.
Margins are real slim these days so if it isn't necessary to the masses then cry us a river if you miss it.
You can get a usb to slim cd drive adapter cable and pull the dvd drive out of the old pc (undo it's release screw on the bottom of the laptop and pull the drive out), this is what I did for my old dvdless ASUS QL502 i5 laptop.
And you can get usb to Ethernet adapters for a song. You don't even need to sing good.
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Cheaper to produce, probably.
I think you can still get external dvd writers and wouldn't be surprised if you could get a usb to ethernet adapter.
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As a matter of fact, I ordered both today - about $40.
Will Rogers never met me.
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What? Not even a Morse-code interface?
Nothing succeeds like a budgie without teeth.
To err is human, to arr is pirate.
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Happily, even the FCC has finally admitted that there's little reason to require hams to know Morse code. That's the only reason I upgraded my license to Amateur Extra.
Will Rogers never met me.
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prices are going up
ok gut out all possible ports, and shift to a hub
also the transition from Ethernet Port, to one with hinge part to allow thin laptop
the jump to wireless screens seemed like a fantasy in 2014, now every meeting room has screen share
the next cord cut might be wireless USB docking hub
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Roger, my laptop came with both an Ethernet port and a USB-C connector. The USB-C connects to a hub I bought with HDMI, USB-A(2), and Ethernet support. The hub was <$50.
Small giggle: The hub was marked as an Apple product, and it's hooked up to an HP laptop.
Software Zen: delete this;
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Well, a USB hub (C or not C, that is not the question) is fine, but also makes the whole thing less "portable"...
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To me, a portable is acceptable only when hooked up to a 28-30" screen, a decent full-size keyboard and a high quality mouse (preferably wireless), memory card reader, memory stick socket (for now: USB A socket; both this and the memory card reader is built into the screen), and with access to "unlimited" disk space. In other words: It must be seated in a docking station. If I am going to take it home from work, it must have one dock at work, one at home. Using it undocked is only in emergency cases. So what's the use of a 'portable', then? I can bring home the stuff I work on using a memory stick.
The only job where I got a portable was when the employer offered no choice. The portable was docked permanently at the office; I never took it home (or elsewhere).
Today, I have got a private portable and an dock, as a reserve in case the main one fails. I very rarely use it. Even though it is a high quality one, I rarely use it. It is very much like the smartphone: The main reason for having one is that 'the rest of the world' claims that I cannot live without it. I go along, even though I do not really believe in those claims.
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I'm happy to report that today I received a USB-A/USB-C to 2.5 Gb Ethernet port, along with a USB-A/USB-C connected CD/DVD Reader/Writer, both for <$50. Problem solved.
Will Rogers never met me.
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My previous laptop at work had about 11h autonomy, 4x USB A and 1xUSB C and all possible readers and an Ethernet port.
My brand new laptop has only two USB A and a USB C with 2,5h autonomy. SO I have to carry around a USB hub with hanging 20cm cables, plus my power supply - this is not a laptop anymore, it is a thin desktop. Sure, the laptop is not heavy, but the extra needed hardware is pure nonsense.
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