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<rant>I don't know what dumbass made this decision, but I'd $itch slap him or her into next week and give them a wedgy. So, Microsoft rolls out OS and application updates constantly, and sometime in the past (and I know it's been a while) they decided to change the default save locations to OneDrive. They clearly did not think this through, or maybe they did and it's anal retentive.
What software company changes user defaults? Let me re-phrase, what competent software company does this?
I get MS wants us to use the cloud so that everything is backed up, but I now have documentation in assorted locations, and I need to figure out the most current. It does not help I'm picking this up after 2 months of downtime. This is up there with the automatic reboots. I swear, I'll punch these people if I ever meet them.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
modified 18-Aug-24 8:53am.
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What's so special about Sunday?
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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It's today.  Nothing special... I'll fix that.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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I meant that all days of the week are equally good for a rant.
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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Harder to find an available pulpit on a Sunday though.
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Good morning.
It does not change your default location if you have ever set it before.
If you have never set a default location, then it will change its default location.
On my work PC I save locally to my shared drives, on my tiny tablet-PC I save to Onedrive because I have very little space on that tablet.
You can change the default save location when you go save a file.
I hope this helps with at least the anger.
Have a great day!
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You replied to the wrong message in this thread.
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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This was your post:
I don't know what dumbass made this decision, but I'd $itch slap him or her into next week and give them a wedgy. So, Microsoft rolls out OS and application updates constantly, and sometime in the past (and I know it's been a while) they decided to change the default save locations to OneDrive. They clearly did not think this through, or maybe they did and it's anal retentive.
What software company changes user defaults? Let me re-phrase, what competent software company does this?
I get MS wants us to use the cloud so that everything is backed up, but I now have documentation in assorted locations, and I need to figure out the most current. It does not help I'm picking this up after 2 months of downtime. This is up there with the automatic reboots. I swear, I'll punch these people if I ever meet them.
My answer addressed the fact that it does not change the default location and that I have several machines that have their own default location.
You have to set them first before they become your custom default locations.
That sounds to me like dead on what you said.
Other people also addressed the same and corrected you.
I wish you luck with your understanding of how software works.
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Have another look. The post you were trying to reply to was from @charlieg, not me. He will probably be unamused at your message.
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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whoops, my bad.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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Android is doing something similar. Making it harder and harder to save files locally.
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charlieg wrote: I don't know what dumbass made this decision, but I'd $itch slap him or her into next week and give them a wedgy.
Ha ha ha. Tell us how you really feel Charlie. 
Jeremy Falcon
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charlieg wrote: I don't know what dumbass made this decision
charlieg wrote: what competent software company does this?
It's not dumbness or incompetence, it's the fact that they want possession of your documents, so that they can scan them with their AI and build a profile of you. Check out the latest Terms of Service from MS, and you'll see that it grants them a license to use your documents however they want to.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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sigh, I sort of knew this, but I really wanted to stay in la la land.
I would support federal legislation outlawing these sorts of agreements. I recently learned that many new car dealers are installing trackers on vehicles, even if you pay cash. Ford has a patent on reporting driving habits to the government.
I miss my 2002 Maxima and my 1996 4-Runner.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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If a car maker wants to collect data to monitor MY vehicle's behavior, I'm okay with that - just be upfront. If they collect data and then sell it to the highest bidder, it's a completely different story. Don't hide behind 50 pages of disclosure agreement a customer has to agree to in order to use your cars app. Etc.
Governments are completely out of control, esp. mine. Rather than be legal and do government things like for the general good, they've figured out how to hide behind beauacracy and simple incompetence. And then there is just government evil. 10+ years ago, along came ancestry.com. You could send them a saliva sample, and they would allegedly tell you your ancestry. And they promised it was all private. Then they sold ALL of the DNA info to the FBI.
Meanwhile, don't change my default folder microsoft. dicks.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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Just went through this on a new car buy from a Toyota dealer.
The dealer had a charge on the invoice for a "security" system. Found out it was being installed when delivered at port due to vehicle thefts and their insurance requires it.
They most certainly are NOT tracking you.
We just told them to NOT install it as the one they use is a horrible system (i.e. cheap).
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My new Ford Maverick collects driving habit and information to be used to "help" them in the maintenance of the truck. After the news about GM sending that info to insurance companies I was worried they would do the same. They do, but in the menus of the truck you can disable that information from being shared with insurance (not the default) and supposedly other parties. I wanted the truck, so I will have to trust that are honoring my settings not to share. Do I trust them? Not really.
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The default save location is "Documents". If you use OneDrive's "backup" feature this means Documents will be on OneDrive. Go into Word's Options and check the box "Save on local computer". It's in the Save area of options. You'll probably also have to do this with Excel and PowerPoint as well.
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This is not true, or maybe I have a different version. The default location USED to be documents, but Microsoft now pushes you to the cloud. You have to watch for it.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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Syntax error: Missing </rant>
…or have you not calmed down yet?
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I had it in there  but CP ate it. I've calmed down a bit, it is a rant after all.
The last 20 years, I developed embedded systems. You NEVER changed a user defaults. I think I made a coding error or slight change and ran into this. Got taken to the wood shed, but more importantly, there is a huge support train that is impacted. unless you're microsoft, then you just don't give a $hit.
I'm working on a spreadsheet now in LibreOffice. Why I pay for Office in the past, I cannot explain other than "it's a standard." Yuck. 
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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I'll hold them while you're doing it.... as long as I get to kick them in the nu*s when you've knocked them down....
Who the f*** is General Failure, and why is he reading my harddisk?
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This kind of behaviour is why outside work I haven't touched MS software for decades now. If I could find a convenient way to avoid Apple & Google I would too, but by the time I twigged what they are up to I was too far in; what they don't know about me isn't worth knowing, and adverts go right over my head anyway. 😉
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I would switch to Linux in a heartbeat and Ubuntu installed with Virtual Box on my workstation-laptop.
However, nothing compares to working with Visual Studio. Even JetBrains Rider feels like a half-baked product...
Steve Naidamast
Sr. Software Engineer
Black Falcon Software, Inc.
blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com
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