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OriginalGriff wrote: Anyone seen my coat?
Try putting on your glasses
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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I tried that: turned out I'd been watering the flowers with a python for a couple of years.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Ich würgte eine Klapperschlang bis ihre Klapper schlapper klang.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
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I immediately thought of this, but that's clearly not Python...
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Ok, so the trend in Windows / WinForms design has been toward minimalism, right?
They've flattened out the colors and made icons two-dimensional, removed borders from windows and all the rest, right.
But why, why, why? Do they use these gigantic windows to display one line of text?
Visual Studio 2017 Example
Example dialog from Visual Studio 2017[^]
Android Studio is guilty too...
Android studio window from one of my articles here at CP[^]
Neither of those windows can be resized either.
I believe the designers are thinking, "well, one day I may decide to put more text and stuff on that window..." They are subscribing to the Indecisive Design Theory
raddevus Indecision is the key to flexibility.
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raddevus wrote: Indecisive Design Theory
This one? Monty Python - Splunge - YouTube[^]
If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson
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Always good when you get a reference to Monty Python.
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Just to derail things, am I the only one who despises this trend toward flattening everything?
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but I enjoy flattening cockroaches, flies, mosquitos...
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No, you are not the only one.
Everyone despises it.
Well, I despise it. It's terrible.
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I used to like it. On my Atari ST[^] back in 1986. At least they tried to add some shadows to let the windows float 'above' the desktop.
I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats.
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I think we all do.... I also suspect the rationale behind it is because such designs work better on mobile phones (less clutter), and Microsoft have a bee in their bonnet about have the same OS for desktops and mobiles ("One OS to rule them all...")
IMO, they should accept that they missed the mobile boat and give up on it - and concentrate their efforts on the desktop environment and its users.
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This was exactly my thoughts.
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Makes sense. Seems to me that the two environments are so different that one shoe does not fit all.
That and I spend enough time making sure my monitors are clean that I'd be seriously annoyed to see a bunch of fingerprints on them. No, I do not have touch screens on anything buy my phone and ipad.
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For me, less graphical details = much better.
The words are still the same and it's less distracting.
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I agree, we should all just use command line interfaces
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I'd rather bit-bang my cpu instructions.
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Nope, just about every developer I know really dislikes the flat UI that Microsoft is using. They also dislike the Windows 10 'Start Menu', all of them have replace it with Classic Shell or an equivalent. Now, this is all on their desktop machines, they basically had no problem with it when they had (work supplied) Windows phones (all now have Android phones).
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It isn't just mobile.
Why does Outlook give you the choice of these desktop themes on a 1900x1200 color monitor?
Dark Gray
Light Gray
White
Really, I spend money for a color monitor and you offer me monochrome?
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Less congestion?
"One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson
"Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons
"You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles
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David Crow wrote: Less congestion?
That's funny.
Imagine an analogy to the spoken word.
"I...don't...want...to...clutter...up...the...air...with...sound...waves..."
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FTFY: "I...clutter...air...sou..."
Software Zen: delete this;
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I keep saying - It took us decades (and I've bought at least one of each) to go from mono to CGA to EGA then VGA and [whole alphabet]GA to HD to UHD. And now that we have ultra-high resolution displays that can display millions of colors, people are designing UIs that would look at home on 4-color CGA monitors.
Who are they trying to accommodate???
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dandy72 wrote: Who are they trying to accommodate???
Good question.
The terrible answer is: Phones (I guess).
But, like you said, even phones have these screens that are HD. I don't get it either.
And, I don't like it.
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As opposed to what? Skeuomorphic designs? Visually noisy pseudo-3d elevations? Amiga Demos hardware color scrolling?
I, for one, accept our clean UI overlords. Just don't try and make text act like a button (looking at you Apple and Microsoft).
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