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The U.S. English term is 'contracting'. You are a contractor, employed by company A, and you are contracting for company B.
Software Zen: delete this;
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It seems you're a full-time employee at A, who contracts you out to B. Like a consulting company, their full-time employees (consultants) are "useless" to them unless they're billable (bringing in money because they're contracted out to a client).
/ravi
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I think you would be considered as a subcontractor.
In Bentley I was a contractor because, although I was working through a recruitment agency, the contract was renewed every year and contracts were mostly advertised via that recruitment agency. I had some of the perks the permies enjoyed, such as discount on employee shop and being able to attend the company update briefings.
They also contracted work out to other companies who would be subcontractors, who Didn't have any perks.
Hassan
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Are you the Boogie woogie Bugle boy of company B?
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Lots of odd answers here, most of which I don't agree with.
In English English, 'outsourcing' is company A paying company B to do work for them. Contracting is hiring people on short-term contracts, either directly or via an agency, to do work for them.
Landlord (what?) is about property, not people.
When a department in company A lends employees to another department, or another company it owns, but your employee rights are unchanged, that's 'secondment'.
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I'm an engineer who's done project management (of engineering, not software, projects). My firm has been contracted by the final customer to install some equipment. I've contracted other firms to make and install that equipment.
My firm was the Main Contractor, and the firms I used were my sub-contractors. You're in exactly the same position as I was.
So in real English, your firm A is a contractor to firm B. You are an employee of firm A, but in firm B's eyes, you are a contractor too. Technically, you take instructions not from firm B, but from firm A. If firm B wants something done, they (technically, clearly not in practise), give their instructions to firm A, and firm A instructs you. That should work in the other direction too: if you can't do something, you tell your manager at firm A, and they tell the customer firm B that it can't be done.
My technique was normally to tell the two parties to talk directly, but to keep me informed. I guess that's what you normally do.
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In South Africa we also use Labour brokering[^]. This *usually* indicates that the person providing the actual work is not permanently employed by anyone.
When we actually are *employed* by company A but provide work to company B then company A is referred to, in most instances, as a consultancy and the person doing the actual work is regarded as a consultant.
Currently I work directly for a company on contract so I am an independent contractor.
I have been everything
"Outsourcing" refers more to what company B is doing in obtaining services from either a labour broker, consultancy, or contractor.
That how things roll in SA in any event...
Sometimes concepts just don't translate properly as a bit of the meaning gets lost along the way.
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Consultant is the most fitting description so far. It sounds like you were assigned to do on-site consulting work for company B and are now in the process of getting reassigned to a different client of company A. That's what we call it where I work. You're a reassigned consultant.
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Should add, I am in the US.
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What you describe is might be referred to as an operations support organization ( Company A), consultancy, or contracting company.
The differences between these three would be:
* Operations Support Org. - Company A contracts with Company B to provide a staff for a specific function to facilitate the operations of Company B. Example HP Enterprise Services, Accenture, etc. The staff of company A are dedicated to company B's operations for specific purposes for length of time and/or objective.
* Consultancy - (the contracting of experts) Company A provides an elite individual or team, to provide supplemental services related to a specific objective which is the specialty of the experts. These tend to be determined more on a basis of the completion of the objective rather than a span of time. Operations Support Org's are more focused on providing a service for a specified duration of time.
* Contracting Company - Here the focus of company A is to provide individuals for company B, an those individuals function as temporary employees for Company B. In the other two scenarios the management of the individuals involved in the service are employees of Company A. While in this case the 'contracted individual' reports to the management of Company B.
Your description however most resembles the function of a Contracting organization where at the discretion of Company B and the employee being contracted.
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In the States it is called being "cut"... But as another poster replied, it can also be called "confused"...
Steve Naidamast
Sr. Software Engineer
Black Falcon Software, Inc.
blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com
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A more proper term used in UK is Consultants!
cheers
IFFI
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In American English:
The more common and polite word is "reassign" - Company A reassigns you from company B to somewhere else, or less commonly "unassigns" or "removes" or "withdraws" or "detaches" you from company B.
With respect to company B, you've been "reassigned" (most common) or "detached" (less common).
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You were a "contractor" at company B. Your contract at company B finished, expired, was ended, terminated. The reason why you aren't working at company B anymore has some bearing as to how it is described. The contract "ended" is probably the most general with the least negative association.
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Basically, Company A = Temp agency.
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Seconded is a valid word for it. It's a bit old fashioned and mainly British but it works.
Accent is on 'Con', not 'Sec' (like 'second').
"Transfer of a military officer or corporate executive to another post for temporary duty." Works perfectly.
"Am I "seconded" at company B? Yes. (seconded to might be better).
Does company A do "secondment"? Yes.
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This dilbert explains a lot, but it perfectly explains the CMS (content mgmnt software, blog software, whatever you want to call it).
Panels 2 and 3 are exactly how I feel about the sitch.
Dilbert Comic Strip on 2011-04-29 | Dilbert by Scott Adams[^]
All CMS /Blog software sucks!
** wordpress -- php-based - worst of all worsts!
** drupal -- php-based
** joomla -- php-based
** dot net blogengine -- I had high hopes. Can't add a simple page that is hosted but is not managed by the blog engine. Why?
** dotnet Nuke -- overly complicated
etc...
And, you know I'm right!
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Richard Deeming wrote: How about Mads Kristensen's MiniBlog
Have you tried that? Is it based on ASP.NET MVC by chance? Microsoft tech at least?
I would like to know more. I'll check it out. Thanks. Let me know if you've used it.
Richard Deeming wrote: Or you could always write your own!
Actually I did start working on that and wrote at least 4 articles here about it.
Here's one ASP.NET MVC : Build Your Custom Blog Engine (CMS) - Part 1 of 2(Own ASP.NET MVC)[^]
But, of course, there is way more work to do there and I'm human (lazy by nature).
Also, I just figured out how to hack the Site.Master file to add the link I want to DotNet BlogEngine so I won't jettison myself into outer-space, quite yet. (To the chagrin of many, I'm sure.)
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It's based on Razor Web Pages, which AFAIK is sort-of a stripped-down version of MVC.
ASP.NET Web Pages | Microsoft Docs[^]
I haven't used it, because I'd already written a simple custom CMS before it came out, which is good enough for what our customer wanted.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Is a minimum a small British mother?
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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At what venue does a missing lady perform?
... such stuff as dreams are made on
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but these days minis are BMW's albeit at 3 times the price
(and the only thing 'mini' is the intelligence of those that still buy them.)
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Do not switch off your computer.
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