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Mike Mullikin wrote: 1) Today's $1000 phone is tomorrow's $500 phone and the next day's $100 phone.
Except that the second half of that hasn't been the case for several years. While >$500 near/flagships get significantly faster SOCs every year, Sub $300 phones are still using A53 cores that are barely faster than the A9 that was in a flagship a half dozen years ago. The only gains you've gotten are faster wifi and cellular modems along with support for newer video codecs.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Dan Neely wrote: The only gains you've gotten are faster wifi and cellular modems
Even those have been throttled down by "a certain half ate Fruit" so that their models using Qualcomm modems do just as well as the models using the slower Intel ones.
I am not the one who knocks. I never knock.
In fact, I hate knocking.
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Part lotteries suck just as badly, so that's a wash IMO.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Mike - go back up... where did anyone criticize anyone for buying a $1k phone? Was more of a question and a bewilderment, that's all. Fail Luddite reference.
What kind of phone do you have?
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Which brings me to my next question, and no, I've not googled it yet - do the Fruity place employees earn commission?
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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charlieg wrote: Mike - go back up... where did anyone criticize anyone for buying a $1k phone? Was more of a question and a bewilderment, that's all. Fail Luddite reference. I was also referring to the thread below (which spawned this thread) where plenty of people criticized anyone for buying a $1K phone (and Apple phones in general).
charlieg wrote: What kind of phone do you have? I have a company phone which happens to be an iPhone 7. Won't be due for a new one for another couple years. No idea what make or model that will be.
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Okay, understood why you lost me there.
fwiw, the phone question was just a joke. was sort of expecting a brand new 1k phone
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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I got my HP Pavilion 15 notebook for about $500, and my ASUS Transformer 10" pad for about $250 - and a cheapo Samsung phone for about $40, and my venerable Sony Walkman media player I got 8 years ago for $170 is still cranking. So I get all the functionality that an iPhone could give and have it be as-good-as or better quality. (I can walk around with my pad in my "purse" and have access to it anytime.)
EDIT: I can also get a good digital camera for under $100.
So what is the point of having something that costs the same as all of these items in a small smartphone whose touch is too small for fingers and video far more detailed than what anyone can see?
modified 14-Sep-17 10:23am.
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I would have to agree with, I won't buy an apple product if I can get cheap deals besides my phone is still working.
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...especially since you can get all these functionalities in a no-brand smartphone for about 1/10th of that price...
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Rage wrote: no-brand smartphone
With questionable reliability
Although, name-brand phones can be just as unreliable, so never mind
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Bragging rights?
"I'm a jerk who can afford to drop $1K on a phone with a fruit brand"?
"I'm an idiot who can't spend my money wisely"?
Seriously, many people will get the phone as part of a contract. As far as they're concerned, paying (say) $50/month for the bragging rights is well worth it.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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Not sure about other parts of the world,but here in India 95% people use this as status symbol,to look rich. Don't know the reason but it's fact.
We don't have contract system here.
Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning
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Rohan Leuva wrote: 95% people use this as status symbol,to look ric
Maybe. But you are talking about the percentage of people using an IPhone.
Only a very small percentage use an IPhone.
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I'd have been more precise. I exactly wanted to convey the same. If 5/10 people use it,4/5 use it just as a status symbol.
Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning
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I really wish it was a small percentage used iphones
it seems the majority of my customers use them and I usually have the following conversation at least 3 or 4 times per week
My phone says "Cannot get mail"
is it an iphone?
Yes
then throw it out the window and get something that works
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Its stupid.
No phone should be priced so high. Its not a gold-plated phone.
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Breaking the $1K thingy while sitting down is thrilling, isn't it?
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A PITA, certainly. In at least two senses.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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OMG, this place is my home now. Why didn't I become a regular earlier?
People dislike apple, with valid points, people dislike javascript having their reasons, what's not to like.
Adopt me please
I am not the one who knocks. I never knock.
In fact, I hate knocking.
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But first there is induction ceremony.
- Write a web page with plain JS, HTML and CSS.
- Write any server side logic of your choice in JS.
- Test it on all iOS platform (till latest -4 versions)
- Needless to say, #2.5 is buy your own devices for testing.
Come back with proof and we will then proceed to next stage of induction.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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Ragging is a felony now.
I am not the one who knocks. I never knock.
In fact, I hate knocking.
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Because it has a nice shiny Apple on it!
An old acquaintance of mine once spent a stupid amount of money on a bowl. The conversation went something like this:
ME: How much????!!!!
HIM: A hundred quid.
ME: A hundred quid for a goddamn bowl????!!!!
HIM: It's not just any bowl, it's a Kelly Hoppen bowl! It's amazing!
ME: What does it do that a non-Kelly Hoppen bowl doesn't do?
HIM: You don't understand - it's a Kelly Hoppen bowl!
ME: What do Kelly Hoppen's bowls do that normal people's bowls don't do?
HIM: It's the way that they combine form and function.
ME: Don't all bowls combine form and function?
HIM: Maybe, but not the way that Kelly's do.
ME: This really doesn't seem to be formatically or functionally different from a £2 bowl from ASDA, if I'm honest. You've been ripped for ninety-eight quid.
HIM: No, I haven't! It's a Kelly Hoppen bowl.
ME: Okay, whatever. Still sounds a touch pricey to me. Who the elephant is this Kelly Hoppen woman anyway?
98.4% of statistics are made up on the spot.
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Happens every time. iPhone comes out, charges more, the other companies raise their prices based on that standard.
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