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Hi theoldfool!
Thank you for your comments.
I'm really used to have two monitors to program, it makes my life really easier to be able to use key shortcuts to get windows where I want (maximize two windows at the same time, one on each display, seeing a full screen video in one and then do whatever in the other one...).
so I would like (at least by now to use a couple of displays side by side).
My doubt was about the same resolution and the size given this will affect the pixel density and therefore the smaller the display the sharper the image. but it seems that everyone here is saying that I shouldn't worry about this and go for the bigger one.
Again, thank you for your comments!
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The bigger monitor is better. Monitor is the device which is the most important because it is the interface to your precious eyes. Because monitors are long lasting devices you should take the best you can afford. I have my Samsung for some 6 years now.
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Thank you (again) KarstenK!
100% agree.
Given the answers I've got, I think I'll go for the bigger one and then put it farther from me.
It's not a price question... it is only a matter of being right... I can't see those monitors at the shop as here we don't have Lenovo distributors with physical shops that sell professional products so no way to see any of those displays.
so T22i-10[^] or T24i-10[^] and given what everybody has said, I think I'll go for the big ones...
It will be similar to what I have now but placed in a mechanical articulated arm, with led backlight and much newer so I guess that much better than my 2003 HP displays.
I can't see a better display in the Lenovo web site... I hope I won't miss it and choose the right one...
Thank you again.
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1080? For programming? What kind of peasantry is that?
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I suppose I would opt for higher resolution for when I need it and change text size etc. with ctrl + scroll.
I am spoiled though from using a true 4K 31" monitor and I can't imagine scaling down now. Strange thing I experienced is when I used the monitor in 3840 x 2160 mode icons and dialog boxes did not increase scale, but when I Switched to 4096 x 2160 mode, everything scaled appropriately and I find it very comfortable. With a monitor this size, I can use the single screen as two by using Window Key + left arrow and selecting the second app after that.
Thank you Joan for another interesting question.
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Hi Rollin!
Your set up seems amazing. 4096x2160!!! In the best scenario I've thought of I will be getting 3840x1080 getting two monitors...
To me using two displays was a great improvement in terms of productivity so I won't go this way until I buy the next display for our home PC (probably it will be time to try a curved monster display if money allows it).
Now I own two 24" LCD HP monitors which from the first day have killed my eyesight. And I can't understand why... I've read out there that LED backlight helps reducing eye stress. I have another 22" display from HP which has led backlight and it is much better, but I can't know if it is due the resolution 1920*1080 in a smaller display (22") or if it is only due to the led backlight.
The 24" LCD HP monitors are from 2003 and therefore they will be much worse than whatever I can buy today...
PS: To be honest I was a little worried to post those questions into the Lounge... I don't want to kidnap it...
Again, thank you for your comments!
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Go for 1920x1200. The bit of extra height is handy.
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Not an option here.
Believe me or not, but I'll have a set up of 3 displays (laptop + two 22" or 24") and I really hate now when I try to move the cursor from the big ones to the laptop one it can be a nightmare if you have the cursor below the 1080. Well, not a nightmare but it can be annoying.
Moreover the displays I can get at my TI provider mostly are 1080p or much bigger.
We are speaking of 120px which I can live without.
Thank you for your comment.
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I run three 22" monitors 1600x1200 in portrait mode for Visual Studio, etc. and one 24" 1920x1080 in landscape for everything that looks better in landscape - plus a couple of others that I keep changing.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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No joke icon so I guess you are being serious here...
If that's the case... is the 24" at 1920x1080 blurry or worse in terms of eye strain?
Thank you for your post.
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I keep the brightness at 50%, the contrast a little higher than default and the screen is clean - no smudges or fingerprints on my non-touch screens.
I get no eye-strain at all that I am aware of and I use these screens, arranged side by side in a curve all to be about 30" away from my face, for a 10 to 12 hour day, every day.
I have almost the same arrangement at home which I use in the evenings and weekends with no noticeable eye-strain.
I have no idea what the dpi of any of these are - it doesn't matter, they are all clear and readable and running at 100% text setting. I run Visual Studio using Consolas 9pt for my text and it is clear and easy. I only zoom it when I am showing someone something and they are looking over my shoulder. Often they say they don't need that so it must be clear enough for them too.
[Edit] The important thing is to run the screens at their "native" resolution. I had a complaint from a user that even though she ran the screen at 1024x768 it was still blurry. I increased the resolution to the native 1280x1024 which she complained about, "Now it's going to be small AND blurry" but it turned out that it was slightly smaller text but crystal clear and so easier to read and no eye-strain. She was, amazingly, happy.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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I've always preferred 1920x1200, but its getting really difficult to find monitors in that resolution/aspect ratio.
Whatever the resolution, 24" seems to be the current "sweet-spot", although 27" is becoming more popular.
EDIT TO ADD:
For anyone who finds it difficult keeping straight the various resolutions and their aspect ratios, like I do, there is a great image on this wiki page that helps.
modified 14-Aug-17 11:36am.
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I've just found a 24" Lenovo with 2560 x 1440 at only 30€ more.
I think I'll go that way. I can't simply put two 27" monitors together on my desk.
Thank you Sam!
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Portrait mode is the answer if your desk isn't very wide.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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I don't want to go that way, time ago I used the two 24" HP monitors in portrait mode and ended with neck pain.
I'll stick with the normal way and smaller monitors... not 27... I really think they would be too big.
Thanks!
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That just means you need a bigger desk!
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Yay!
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I finally got them to give me two 24" to replace the two 22" I had.
A world better. Two x 24" also what I have at home.
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Thank you for your post W∴ Balboos!
I've found the Lenovo P24h-10[^] which costs 30€ more and offers 2560 x 1440.
I think we have a winner.
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You are welcome.
Another configuration I have at home:
Refurbished PC -> HDIM -> 49" TV. This was gotten for viewing media, but I've used it now and then to work remotely. Only one screen - so that jury that's still out you've heard about? It's still out.
My curiosity - for these new 'super wide' monitors. Assuming there's enough vertical height to make it usable (very very important !)*, how does it compare to two side-by-side. The bar's missing, but full-screen can become a problem. If yours is one of these, let me know how it works out.
I was given a media laptop, back when I lost everything to Hurricane Sandy. It's the wide-screen aspect ratio. I had a sad choice: wide, but not enough lines (hassle) or full-document, which was so small it was unusable. Better than the nothing I had before it, but a horrible situation. Make absolutely sure you've enough vertical height (in human measurements).
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Well, now I'm working with three monitors using W10, laptop (1920x1080) and two 24" displays (1920x1200).
The taskbar appears in all of them, the only pita is that when you press the windows key the menu always gets opened in the main display and not in the one you have the mouse cursor or in the one you are working in.
I hope to replace those two old 24" monitors with a good brand new pair of monitors. So, no real change of view... it'll be only a healthy improvement for me.
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For many years I've been using 3 monitors. These are 20" Viewsonic VP2030b at 1200 X 1600 resolution. These all failed after about 4 years - I had a shop replace all the capacitors on the Main boards and they all work great again - hopefully forever?
Contrast = 60 and brightness = 40. Recently dropped brightness - big help!
In Windows 10 try CALIBRATE DISPLAY COLOR which is hard to find. Select settings and then type in 'Calibrate Display Color'. Set Gamma (makes a difference), test for correct brightness and contrast, and go through the Clear Text setting last. I now have all the monitors set correctly and set the same. Now I can last for 10 - 12 hours.
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Hi DanW52!
Thank you for your post.
I've found this[^] Lenovo 24" monitor with 2560 x 1440 resolution.
I guess I'll get two of them as they only cost 30€ more than what I was thinking of buying.
In the monitors I have now I can see some almost imperceptible shadows that I think won't disappear unless I sacrifice a hen in front of them an as I don't have any spare hen now...
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DanW52 wrote: These all failed after about 4 years
Ouch. My pair of NEC 2090's have been going strong for over 9 years now, and an HP I've got as a spare/KVM monitor's done maybe 7 without problem. All bought as refurbs.
I really wish someone'd launch a new entrant in this space. They're the perfect size to flank my 2560x1600, and will be only a half inch taller than the 32" 4k I'm currently lusting after. 16:9/10 are IMO too narrow for portrait use at any reasonable height. And while my current displays are still in working order, in addition to be rather old at this point; they're power pigs compared to new LED backlit models. At this point I'd settle for even just a new 1600x1200 panel; but would gladly trade up for 3200x2400 or other premium additions.
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Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
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