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Medical fact:
Case sensitive languages that also require semicolons at the end of every line and do not know the difference between a functions and a property unless you add () to the end of a parameter-less function drives you crazy within hours.
But seriously.
I do not understand the rant against *any* language.
Especially when it comes to VB.net and C#; they are almost the same languages.
See: C# and VB.NET Comparison Cheat Sheet: ASP Alliance[^]
I think people can build crappy software and good software in any language.
modified 3-Aug-17 5:25am.
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I really don't like those feature-vs-feature, mechanism-vs-mechanism, xxyzzy-vs-xyzzy style of comparisons. Looking at each single feature / mechanism / xyzzy in isolation tends to hide their intended use, or established use. It reveals nothing about the "ecosystem" around the language. It allows a Fortran programmer to program Fortran in any language, arguing that (s)he is just using the mechanism provided by the language in a perfectly correct way.
Reducing the differences between two languages to mere syntax details can actually be very misleading.
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Guilty. I once dropped the guts of a Fortran program into C#. Worked pretty good. Easier than building an interface in Fortran.
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I once worked on a machine whose operating system was written in Fortran!
Rumours are that when Nic Wirth were developing the very first Pascal compiler, they started out writing a bootstrap in Fortran. Or, they tried, before realizing that it was easier do do it in assembly code.
Another sidetrack: I also worked a littel in a language whose compiler was written in itself, but without using a bootstrap. The compiler author (and language designer) wrote the compiler code "offline", and line-by-line mentally translated the code line into the machine instructions he knew that the compiler would have generated, typing the assebly instructions into the machine and assembled it. You could say that is having a bootstrap in assembly, but it wasn't a simple bootstrap - it was the complete compiler.
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Kind of amazing, really. Whatever works! Sounds like you've been rustling bytes for quite some time.
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For example macros in C/C++. You can find examples, even apparently people that claimed it was a good idea, that did things like define 'BEGIN'/'END' as '{'/'}' so that it looked like a different language.
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Having properties doesn't mean anything. Other languages have properties. Doesn't mean they're the basis for some other language
If it's not broken, fix it until it is.
Everything makes sense in someone's mind.
Ya can't fix stupid.
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Unfortunately, people assume that just because something is printed it's truth. I don't think the book author was properly informed or else we're just not hearing the whole story from the book. C# has more Java roots than VB roots.
Jeremy Falcon
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I don't think the book author is properly informed. Just because its printed material doesn't make it accurate.
C# has a lot of Java roots.[^]
Jeremy Falcon
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C# is a dialect for the VB7 runtime, known as .NET.
It's basicly just basic with some updated syntax, a new name and some marketing.
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If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: VB7 runtime, known as .NET.
Sorry, I can't find anything to support this statement. Care to share a link or two. Thanks.
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No, I don't care
There was this quote saying "we needed another curly braces language" at the introduction of C#, which coincided with the release of the renamed VB7. VB6 already introduced compiling to P-code, a runtime/framework that needed be installed.
Also take into account that C# code can be automatically translated (search & replace-kind of simple) to VB. C# is nothing more than a cleaned up VB6.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Well - maybe because: what was Java modeled after ?
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Well, Java was based off C++ so there's that too.
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Agreed. I heard through the grapevine that MS even hired some top Java guys to help design C#. Never heard of the VB thing. Methinks its the author's wishful thinking.
Jeremy Falcon
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C# is Java with all the stupid sucked out.
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C# is closer to C++ and Delphi (Turbo Pascal). C# and Delphi has the same father.
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Who cares as long as they don't model anything after time honored VB practices.
Variants, anybody?
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Care for a slice of nested GOTO statements?
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Global variables! Shirley you like global variables!
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How could they possibly have omitted On Error Resume Next from the C# spec?
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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Simple problems should have simple solutions.
Complex problems should too.
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Arrays start at 1 - just like when counting your fingers.
C# (C, C++...) messed up, who counts anything from zero? It's unnatural, zero simply does not exist.
Sin tack
the any key okay
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