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I voted for people that didn't vote for this crap. I was simply out-voted by other people that voted for the other side. In essence, I'm reaping what everyone else sowed.
"Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Benjamin Franklin, 1759
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: I voted for people that didn't vote for this crap. I was simply out-voted by
other people that voted for the other side. In essence, I'm reaping what
everyone else sowed.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair.
nils illegitimus carborundum
me, me, me
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That's democracy for you...
If your neighbours don't listen to The Ramones, turn it up real loud so they can.
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To quote from a disputed source, (Alexis de Tocqueville, Joseph de Maistre)...
'We get the government we deserve and deserve the government we get'
Rhys
"If you ever start taking things too seriously, just remember that we are talking monkeys on an organic spaceship flying through the Universe"
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One must first agree on a definition for terrorism.
Is one that resorts to destruction of property for a political reason while taking action to insure no one is hurt a terrorist? Is a group that espouses the same thing and which encourages people to both act and to support those that do a terrorist organization?
Is Green Peace a terrorist organization?
Is an arsonist? (Search for "terrorist")
http://www.justice.gov/usao/co/press_releases/archive/2010/July10/7_23_10.html[^]
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EDIT: Also, I'm interested to hear what our neighbo(u)rs across the pond think of this...
I wasn't there. Sorry.
Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.
Shed Petition[ ^]
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Framing the Boston Tea Party as a terrorist act certainly runs counter to current cessesionist tendencies in Texas.
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I think Texas has a strong separatist tendency and rather would want to be their own country if they can't force their will on the rest of your nation.
Therefor teaching as if separatism == terrorism is a bit ironic, but it fits their reactionary movement of religious fanaticism.
Anyway, I also think the US would be better off cutting their ties with Texas and turn it into a confederate trade union between Texas + other southern bible belt states if they choose and the rest of the US.
They don't get to elect a president, but they can elect their own president; they can still share the same military and you can still import their steaks and spare ribs. You get all the benefits of a nation, without all the bullshit. Everybody wins.
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Colin Mullikin wrote: EDIT: Also, I'm interested to hear what our neighbo(u)rs across the pond think
of this...
We have enough history not to be obsessed with an act that happened a little over 200 years ago; we can obsess about things that happened 1000 to 2000 years ago. Maybe when your country grows up a bit, you'll have other things to remember.
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Still a little sore about it, I see... 
The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill
America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde
Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin
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Of course. I'd hate to think that Pee Wee Herman was an Englishman.
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Colin Mullikin wrote: EDIT: Also, I'm interested to hear what our neighbo(u)rs across the pond think of this...
As there isn't a link to the text, I don't know what was actually said, but that isn't going to stop me pontificating wildly.
If this is the case then it's pretty stupid. This is the ultimate emotive language example, isn't it:
Freedom Fighter ---> Guerilla ---> Terrorist
Agree ---------------------------> Disagree
I don't blame the then US colonies from rebelling, they were treated pretty shoddily by the government from what little I understand of the situation. Even if I was against it, I'd still fail to see where the "Terror" part slips in, it wasn't designed as an act to strike fear but as part of an legitimate protest (even if their actions were illegal).
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Keith Barrow wrote: As there isn't a link to the text, I don't know what was actually said, but that isn't going to stop me pontificating wildly.
Isn't that the heart and soul of The Lounge...? 
The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill
America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde
Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin
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But since there is no voting, I will say it again. No citizen of the U.S. is capable of being a terrorist against the U.S. based on the founding doctrines of our country. Allowing anything else, pollutes the original ideal of our country (applies to U.S.). Those ideals are the right to revolt, to overthrow a tyrannical regime, the right to fight for what is right even if it is the government that is wrong. Calling citizens a terrorist allows history books to call patriots terrorists and tyrannical monarchs righteous.
Down vote me if you want (HAH) but I am right. What Timothy McVeigh did was wrong, illegal, immoral, and killed my step sister, but was it terrorist? Not to me, did he deserve to be convicted and punished like he was, most likely. But, I still don't call him a terrorist.
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote: What Timothy McVeigh did was wrong, illegal, immoral, and killed my step sister, but was it terrorist? Not to me, did he deserve to be convicted and punished like he was, most likely. But, I still don't call him a terrorist.
He inspired terror in other people. That is the dictionary definition of a terrorist... 
The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill
America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde
Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin
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But the US didn't exist yet, so none of its laws were in effect, and any terrorism was directed at Britain.
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Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote: No citizen of the U.S. is capable of being a terrorist against the U.S.
USA PATRIOT Section 802[^] says you're wrong.
modified 27-Nov-12 14:21pm.
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The patriot act is unconstitutional, and is therefore null and void.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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let me know if you ever get a chance to argue that before a judge. i'd love to hear how it turns out.
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I'm afraid we all know how it would turn out.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: I'm afraid we all know how it would turn out.
A new judge and you in a very fashionable jumpsuit...
The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill
America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde
Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin
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I wonder what color the feds use. Arizona uses pink. I think Texas uses orange.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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according to this thread on prisontalk.com (!)[^], fed prisoners wear khaki or green. orange is for secluded prisoners.
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Ha ha ha!
I so wish voting was turned back on...
--
Harvey
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