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More practical, not answering what the client asks, but what he means is a very difficult skill, but extremely useful.
A recent example I have:
The client asked for extra confirmation when exiting an old VB6 application, but what he actually wanted is that a background task in said VB6 application keeps running.
He hoped that people wouldn't close the application with an extra confirmation.
Of course the correct solution was to build a service for the background task.
Some people aren't able to form a correct question, like this guy who only knew the VB6 application, but didn't know what a service was (just like the original VB6 programmer, it seems).
Maybe his question should've been: Do you know a way to keep this background task running even when the application is closed?
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"I reject the premise of the question." -- Leo McGarry (West Wing)
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well said honey
"A little time, a little trouble, your better day"
Badfinger
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Is there someone who questions those questions themselves?
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test, hi.
Charlie Gilley
Microsoft IS the virus.
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please don't reply... it was a test on changing my sig. Sig still applies.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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Elephant this. I'm off to the CP bug reports.
I just made a new post, clicked on the edit your sig, changed it. First post okay. Second post back to my old sig. Something is broken.
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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I'm pretty sure that that is by design: you change your sig via the Username dropdown "My Settings" and selecting the "Forums and QA" tab.
The one on the "Message" page is a temporary change.
Temporary change!
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
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Exactly
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Well, I just learned something new this morning. Thank you sir.
Charlie Gilley
“Microsoft is the virus..."
"the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money"
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You're welcome!
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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See what I mean?
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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OG is correct, permanent changes only in your settings.
Message composition changes is only for that very message.
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Hi test, 97 Octane? 
A home without books is a body without soul. Marcus Tullius Cicero
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shut up old guy 
Charlie Gilley
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Has never been more appropriate.
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I resemble that! 
A home without books is a body without soul. Marcus Tullius Cicero
PartsBin an Electronics Part Organizer - Release Version 1.4.0 (Many new features) JaxCoder.com
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I dunno, the youth of today ... I died in two World Wars for the likes of them! Bring back National Insurance, that's what I say! Couple of years in a Building Society, do 'em a world of good!
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt
AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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test again
Charlie Gilley
“Microsoft is the virus..."
"the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money"
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Btw. you can test anonymous, when you reply to an old post to one of your answers
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I temporarily abandoned SVG processing in favor of TinyVG. I'm not done with it. The specification document for the file format is atrocious so I'm looking at the code.
But the code they provide is in Zig and although that will interface with native C, my embedded toolchains don't support Zig.
So C++ it is. Lots of porting. Zig is Rusty. That is to say, somewhat Rustish, syntactically. I don't care for it. Particularly I don't like the exception handling. Ugh. What is wrong with try catch?
And local functions (functions nested in functions) are annoying. Remind me never to use those in C# either.
I don't get why people would produce a potential standard using a newish language that hasn't really matriculated or cemented itself among developers yet.
Providing a C or even C# reference implementation would get a lot more mileage, IMO, just because more people know it, and what happens if Zig never catches on like happens to so many new languages?
Check out my IoT graphics library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx
And my IoT UI/User Experience library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix
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Many have tried to find a better C then C but C and C++ are so embedded in embedded that it will be almost impossible to unembed them.
Although I kinda like Rust, it's not well enough established yet to make it to production.
ZIG is interesting but I don't think it will take off.
Plus I found years ago that most developers are not willing to learn another language for day-to-day work and with the way that code is currently developed I can't say as I blame them.
If it ain't broke don't fix it.
A home without books is a body without soul. Marcus Tullius Cicero
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Zig is neat, but "neat" doesn't deliver.
Check out my IoT graphics library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx
And my IoT UI/User Experience library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix
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honey the codewitch wrote: Zig is neat, but "neat" doesn't deliver.
and don't buy the groceries, or rent, etc..
I once was in a large shop that used C exclusively and I was asked to rewrite a huge project, I did it in C++ and the manage called in a associate that I was friendly with and she asked him; "Does he know what he's doing?"
The project got completed and worked great.
A home without books is a body without soul. Marcus Tullius Cicero
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C++ has really endeared itself to me over the past few years. Before that I was kind of favoring C#, because for all its power, C++ can be really stodgy and finicky.
That being said, embedded kind of forced me back to it, and using it regularly again has smoothed out the rough edges for me, better than ever before, so I'm proficient and productive with it.
Well, not the STL. I'm so rusty with that, because I don't use it with embedded. Frankly I stick to the C standard libraries mostly, because they're more consistent implementationwise platform to platform on embedded. I'm pretty good with the language features though, and reimplementing basic STL functionality as I need it.
Check out my IoT graphics library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/gfx
And my IoT UI/User Experience library here:
https://honeythecodewitch.com/uix
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I agree, I also have been using it since doing embedded. I'm starting to use it on the STM32 platform now and really liking it. To me using C is like going back to black and white after seeing color. C++ just has so much more to offer.
I won't say I'm proficient using C++ but am picking it up as I go. Don't have any project to really challenge my skills and so I only use the basics.
I've never used STL so I don't miss it.
A home without books is a body without soul. Marcus Tullius Cicero
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