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ACCOUNTANTS? REALLY?
Three accountant checked in a small hotel, evening before some conference. The boy - replacing the clerk momentarily - charged them $30 ($10 each)...
However a few minutes later - after the clerk got back - he brought the accountants $5 as a special discount for the conference...
The accountants decided to keep $1 each and giving the remaining $2 to the boy...
Later that evening, they wanted to write down their expenses - as good accountant should, but was unable the get the right amount...
As each of them paid $10 originally and got back $1 later, they write down their expenses like this: 3 * $9 + $2 (the $2 they gave to the boy), but that sums up to $29 only!!!
What's wrong here?
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Are we reduced to teaching maths to accountants?
$30 - original payment for all three accountants
$25 - payment for all three accountants for conference
$5 - refund
The expenses should be written as follows:
Conference - $25/3 = $8.33 (or for one accountant - $8.34)
Tip - $2/3 = $0.67 (or for one accountant = $0.66)
This adds up to $9 per accountant, which is what each of them actually paid out-of-pocket.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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27 from 3 * 9 already includes the room charges and tip. Hotel guy took 25, that guy took 2.
"It is easy to decipher extraterrestrial signals after deciphering Javascript and VB6 themselves.", ISanti[ ^]
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Your concept of accountants giving back money is deeply flawed.
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<Jedi hand-wave> These aren't the accountants you're looking for.
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack.
--Winston Churchill
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Sorry,but our only accountant here ran off to become a politician.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.
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And I'm not sure he can help you anyway...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote: What's wrong here?
It's 2017 and you're still posting this.
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Still? Just started
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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You forgot to add some arcane rules like that movie thing that is (mercifully) posted less often now.
These rules have to be hidden well enough, so that we can pounce on any newcomer who inadvertently violates them. Better still, make up some arbitrary new rule each time. Like Calvinball.
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There are rules so hidden, that even I can't find them now...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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You're adding the $2 to the debit column twice.
[edit: the word "debit" wouldn't come to mind, earlier]
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
modified 1-Feb-17 10:56am.
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A while ago I set up Ubuntu on my partner's laptop - no not dual boot. All she needed to get to work were Firefox, Thunderbird and OpenOffice. I explained the concept of open source software to her. After a few days she was impressed (and happy - whew) and suggested that we should consider a monetary donation. We have allocated a small sum toward this.
I have been working on a Joomla based website for my walking club. A couple of the tools that actually make the whole thing possible are not only very good but entirely open source and very well supported - amazing. Again I will suggest our club makes a small contribution toward these.
How do others approach this question?
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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As I a developer I more in the line to contribute code...
I have lines in FreeType, Cairo, Mono, jQuery UI, GIMP. I also make my tools free (not really open source, but the source is available)...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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That's a tough question that's in debate at the moment. Personally, I feel if you benefit from an open source project and have the spare money to contribute (no, yachts don't count as "necessities") you should.
modified 1-Feb-17 14:34pm.
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Normally I prefer the "donate" method if offered, I've no problems giving 5/10 bucks if getting something that would normally cost 10 - 100 times as much from a large company. If the author gets rich all the power to them - still getting something at a fraction of the commercial price and helping a fellow dev (i.e. not some 'suit' in an ivory tower) get along.
Except for microsoft, I repay for their good free apps (i.e. visual studio) with free advice and helpful referrals of their paid products; good advice like 'w10 sucks, bring back the proper menu & desktop' and 'office is OK but it's still a bloated pig.'
Sin tack ear lol
Pressing the any key may be continuate
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If I am working on a project that I am getting paid for, I always spread the largess, but if it is a personal 'this would be fun to write' project (of which I have a couple) then no.
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Wait until they make a change that is not backwards compatible and breaks everything...you'll be wanting your money back.
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I am indeed very willing to contribute a few quid to tools/apps I like and find useful, but they have to make it easy for me (a paypal button, at the very least), and not nag me for money.
Although there was one nag that I did appreciate, a few weeks back. I forget which app it was, now, but I think it might have been DexPot, that popped up a dialog pointing out that the app had been installed on the machine for a year (so there was no "phoning home" involved), and that they'd be happy if I wanted to give them a bob or two, but it was perfectly OK if I didn't, as long as I enjoyed using it.
I know it was an app or tool that I use a lot (e.g. DexPot is invaluable on laptops), and I liked the way they asked, so I clicked the paypal button.
If I hadn't liked the way they'd asked, I'd probably be using something else, by now -- good customer service often outweighs good product.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Mark_Wallace wrote: a paypal button, at the very least), and not nag me for money
Yes I agree. The Paypal option is essential for us as we're not prepared to go any other way.
Mark_Wallace wrote: hat popped up a dialog
I don't mind the occasional beg. Fair enough.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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I think that could be a good candidate for our Free Tools forum.
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Is it not already there? It really ought to be.
I'll try to find some time, at the week-end, to go through the free stuff I find most useful, and check to see if it's listed.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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my fast search didn't find it.
Mark_Wallace wrote: to go through the free stuff I find most useful, and check to see if it's listed. cool Thank you
M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Every once in a while. Usually 1-5€. There have been cases where I have donated multiple times. Usually small projects and tools that I regularly reuse.
Those gems that I come back to ever so often. I'd like to think that it helps the devs of the software to feel appreciated.
Not really open source but every so often I drop a small donation towards Dwarf Fortress as I come back every 6 months or so to play it again and again.
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