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Excellent!
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Not sure if I can add anything since Jörgen managed to compress the main things into three sentences
As an aborigine my opinions are obviously biased, but Jörgen is definitely right. We tend to be introvert and in general people don't do small talk. For example if things are going well at work, you notice it because of the silence surrounding you. But if things are going bad you probably know about it since it's going to be told straight to you. As far as I can see it's a good thing since we mean what we say and we keep what we promise.
As in all Nordic countries the summer is short, but beautiful. You might find especially the autumn and the beginning of the winter very cold in Helsinki area since, as long as the water is open, the outside temperature feels roughly 10 degrees less than it actually is. Immediately after ice is formed on the coast, the air dries and doesn't feel so cold anymore.
One awkward thing may be the amount of daylight during the year. For many people it's too much on the summertime when the sun hardly sets, even in southern Finland, and at winter time the day is short, I mean really short. When you go to work, it's dark, when you leave the office, it's dark.
I know a lot of people who have survived Finland so as far as I can see it's doable. It may take some time to get to know the people and to get used to some of our (probably weird) habits but then again you most likely also gain new life long friends.
So why not take the risk, you might even like it
Oh by the way, you hopefully like coffee!
Some links you might find useful:
- http://www.te-services.fi/te/en/jobseekers/work_finland/index.html[^]
- Employee or entrepreneur[^]
- Working in Finland - The Finnish Immigration Service[^]
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Awesome stuff, thanks for all the info! Now, to actually get the job...
"This new learning amazes me, Sir Bedivere. Explain to me again how sheep's bladders may be employed to prevent earthquakes"
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Good luck
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"aborigine" ? Are you Sami ?
I read that the tango is a very popular dance all over Finland, and a distinctly Finnish style of tango has evolved, emphasizing the sad/lonely aspects of the tango: [^].
Interesting to think of introversion+vodka+sauna paired with tango
«There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008
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No, not Sami.
You're right, Tango among other dances is very popular and the Tango in Finland is usually much more melancholic. At summertime we have lots of open-air dances which are really popular. What comes to the music in overall, I guess the same melancholy can be seen how for example symphonic or melodic metal is popular here. Take for example Nightwish[^] or Sonata Arctica[^]
BillWoodruff wrote: Interesting to think of introversion+vodka+sauna paired with tango Well, it takes two to tango
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Oct. 2016 comparison (Numbeo.com) of cost-of-living in Zurich/Helsinki: [^].
good luck ! Bill
«There is a spectrum, from "clearly desirable behaviour," to "possibly dodgy behavior that still makes some sense," to "clearly undesirable behavior." We try to make the latter into warnings or, better, errors. But stuff that is in the middle category you don’t want to restrict unless there is a clear way to work around it.» Eric Lippert, May 14, 2008
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Did Karl Marx dislike Earl Grey because all proper tea is theft?
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Not fair. Marx liked tea, his opinion though was forgotten after Trotsky's hatchet job.
veni bibi saltavi
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It's the other way around. The Earl really had to watch his back for all the marksmen.
... such stuff as dreams are made on
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Chai think you are correct.
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Just what is brewing in your mind?
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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Keemun, Oolong are you going to brewing up these puns?
Surely you've taken leaf of your senses.
Aside: Earl Grey is NOT proper tea. Lapsang Suchong forever!
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"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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This morning my work laptop had a new notification from MS in the sidebar.
Quote: For more info about Windows 10, go to Start > All Apps > Get Started App.
Emphasis is mine, the facepalm is original.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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What's the problem?
Oh, I see.
The message was slightly garbled and truncated. It should read:
Go to Start, have a G&T, go to All Apps, have another G&T, go to Get Started App, shut down windows 10 and start the Weven installer, then go down to the pub for more G&T while the installer is fixing your problem.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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My office was recently moved from the Massachusetts tech hub at Kendall Square, Cambridge to Boston Financial District. Surprisingly, the office space is nowadays cheaper here
So, here we are among the people in suites suits. When we enter an elevator they stare at us, unsure whether we are working for some kind of delivery service or are homeless people who somehow tricked the security and got in. We are struggling not to laugh when looking at their ties and shiny shoes.
Two worlds colliding...
modified 3-Oct-16 11:04am.
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Nemanja Trifunovic wrote: suites suits.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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No, they wear sofas, and use armchairs as shoulder pads.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Can't even spell it.
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I have allergic reactions too only speaking of it. The couple of times I went to work in shirt and jacket (no tie, I usually wear it only at wedding and funerals, which is a repetition) my colleagues wanted to take photographs...
GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- ++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X
If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP. -- TNCaver
When I was six, there were no ones and zeroes - only zeroes. And not all of them worked. -- Ravi Bhavnani
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I work in Prime Tower, Zurich, which is about as bankery as you get. Some of the younger types look like Donald Trump's two sons. All slicked hair and stripey shirts. I still have my ridiculous biker hair, and I get away with a basic trousers and shirt combo. Still, I feel uncomfortable around these people. They're too damn slick.
"This new learning amazes me, Sir Bedivere. Explain to me again how sheep's bladders may be employed to prevent earthquakes"
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If you really want to freak 'em out, wear either a Gadsden t-shirt ("Don't Tread On Me"), or a Black Lives Matter t-shirt over a hoodie.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
- When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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I used to work for a company owned by a big-time lawyer in San Diego. The partner of the firm that was in charge of the office itself hated the fact that I wore tennis shoes at work every day, and even said something to my boss about it. When I heard about it, I figured I would meet the guy half-way and wear one tennis shoe and one dress shoe.
He was not amused. He was so not amused that he tried to get me fired.
When I found out about that, I started wearing flip flops.
The icing on the cake, though, was for Halloween, all of the secretaries (about 30 women) in the office had a "dress like John" contest. At the time I was riding a Harley and came to work wearing black biker t-shirts, a leather vest, jeans, and biker boots. I came to work dressed as a lawyer as my costume. Whenever possible, I would park my bike next to the guy's car.
I thought the law partner was gonna have a freakin' stroke. All of the other lawyers thought it was funny as hell.
He learned after a while that if you poke JSOP, JSOP pokes back.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
- You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
- When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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My three years at Hughes Aircraft will funny in that way. Still a shirt/tie (no jacket) culture, but every Friday before Halloween, all of the s/w people came to work in their suits - preferably 3 piece.
Of course, being a Friday, and a suit, senior management was worried the entire department was out on job interviews (market was white hot then).
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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charlieg wrote: senior management was worried the entire department was out on job interviews
Management should always be worried that their talent will leave.
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